ILS

Ok, first you'll have to fire up your favorite text editor (Notepad++ in my case), and find the beacons.lua for the terrain where you want to add the beacon. The file are located in \DCS World\Mods\terrains\[terrain name]

Note: this procedure only works when adding ICLS beacons to runways which already have regular ILS. If doing it from scratch, you'll need to find all coordinates etc. manually.

Find the airport where you want to add the beacon (in my case, Bandar Abbas). Make a note of the beacon ID (Bandar Abbas: beaconId = 'airfield2_[x]'), and scroll down to the two ILS beacons.

   {
       display_name = _('');
       beaconId = 'airfield2_2';
       type = BEACON_TYPE_ILS_LOCALIZER;
       callsign = 'IBND';
       frequency = 109900000.000000;
       position = { 113693.234375, 5.776140, 13155.006836 };
       direction = 28.001016;
       positionGeo = { latitude = 27.198926, longitude = 56.367930 };
       sceneObjects = {'t:197885952'};
       chartOffsetX = 4544.000000;
   };
   {
       display_name = _('');
       beaconId = 'airfield2_3';
       type = BEACON_TYPE_ILS_GLIDESLOPE;
       callsign = 'IBND';
       frequency = 109900000.000000;
       position = { 116974.781250, 5.880138, 14981.854492 };
       direction = 26.337865;
       positionGeo = { latitude = 27.228633, longitude = 56.386212 };
       sceneObjects = {'t:-1265303495'};
   };

Copy the text (to a new file, or just insert it after the last beacon for the selected airport), and increment the minor number of the beaconIDs to the next available numbers. For Bandar Abbas that would be beaconId = 'airfield2_4'; (LOC) and 5 (GS). Replace the "ILS" in the beacon type with "ICLS":

type = BEACON_TYPE_ICLS_LOCALIZER;
and
type = BEACON_TYPE_ICLS_GLIDESLOPE;

Frequncies/channels:

Find a channel/frequency from the list below, and replace the old ILS frequency with the new ICLS freq. The same frequency is used for both LOC and GS. Add a line below the frequency with the corresponding channel number.

Channel:    Frequency:
1            15415000000
2            15445000000
3            15475000000
4            15505000000
5            15535000000
6            15565000000
7            15595000000
8            15625000000
9            15655000000
10            15685000000
11            15415000000
12            15445000000
13            15475000000
14            15505000000
15            15535000000
16            15565000000
17            15595000000
18            15625000000
19            15655000000
20            15685000000


or just run the following through your favorite lua interpreter:


for channel =1, 20, 1 do
   x= 15415000000 + 30000000 * ((channel - 1) % 10)
   print(channel, '\t', x, '\n')
end

For those who prefer to copy and paste, here is my test setup (with all changes from default in bold):

--    ICLS test:
   {
       display_name = _('');
       beaconId = 'airfield2_[b]4[/b]';
       type = BEACON_TYPE_I[b]C[/b]LS_LOCALIZER;
       callsign = '[b]TST[/b]';
       frequency = [b]15415000000[/b].000000;
       [b]channel = 1;[/b]
       position = { 113693.234375, 5.776140, 13155.006836 };
       direction = 28.001016;
       positionGeo = { latitude = 27.198926, longitude = 56.367930 };
       sceneObjects = {'t:197885952'};
       chartOffsetX = 4544.000000;
   };
   {
       display_name = _('');
       beaconId = 'airfield2_[b]5[/b]';
       type = BEACON_TYPE_I[b]C[/b]LS_GLIDESLOPE;
       callsign = '[b]TST[/b]';
       frequency = [b]15415000000[/b].000000;
       [b]channel = 1;[/b]
       position = { 116974.781250, 5.880138, 14981.854492 };
       direction = 26.337865;
       positionGeo = { latitude = 27.228633, longitude = 56.386212 };
       sceneObjects = {'t:-1265303495'};
   };
 -- end of test

Note: I have only tested channel 1 at Bandar Abbas so far. YMMV. Make sure you set the wind direction in the ME so that the ICLS equipped runway is active.

Thanks - will try this later

Thanx a lot. Will try to apply this mod ASAP :)

Well, if you love challenges, the F/A-18 is perfect for you! Flying an ILS approach is the easiest (and rather boring) form to get to the ground in bad weather.

 

A non precision approach like NDB or VOR/TACAN approach is challenging.

 

It's for sure more satisfying to drop out of the clouds at 300ft after a successful non-precision approach, than simply riding down to 200ft on the glideslope without the need for timing, distance, speed and vert speed checking.

 

As has been demonstrated IRL (with sometimes questionable outcome), nobody can keep you from continuing a non-precision approach well below minimum. This makes a non-precision approach even more challenging ;)

 

Initially I was frustrated with the F-5 because it doesn't have an ILS either, but I quickly re-discovered how satisfying a non-precision approach is...at least in the sim.

I have to admit that IRL I prefer the 'easy' way. ;)

 

Btw. I'm simming since the Commodore VIC 20 times, I'm flying IRL much longer than this and I don't know how BST and ED did it, but their F/A-18 is the most immersive airplane I ever came across in any sim. Extremely impressive.

 

I've never enjoyed FLYING in a sim that much before. The combination of superb graphics, sounds and the Hornets high alpha capability is simply unmatched :)

 

PS: Not even CATIIIB means zero visibility.

You are right but it has nothing to do with the lack of ILS. Sure one can "break the rules" and carry out a non precision approach when a precision approach is required and sure it is a lot of fun and yes, landing on a carrier is cool but I was talking about the lack of ILS. I want to carry out precision approaches onto conventional runways, not boats. At least, not always. And it's a pity ED won't implement optional ILS capability.

And it's a pity ED won't implement optional ILS capability.

The point I'm trying to make is, that the lack of a conventional ILS (did you read the post from drPhibes?) shouldn't keep you from flying this magnificent add on :)

Thats right.

ILostSight ... boring system, good for fat airliners in xplane. Here is boring ASF to line up from miles away, if I go straight in to runway the next thing is to shutdown dcs ... almost always do 45, 90, 180 degrees turns to land, more fun and challenging.

ILostSight ... boring system, good for fat airliners in xplane. Here is boring ASF to line up from miles away, if I go straight in to runway the next thing is to shutdown dcs ... almost always do 45, 90, 180 degrees turns to land, more fun and challenging.

Eh... that's still boring, I do a vertical break... day and night, all weather. Roll into the groove from split-S... heck, on a good day I can catch 3 wire from a pirouette break:music_whistling:

You want video? I didn't think so.

ILostSight ... boring system, good for fat airliners in xplane. Here is boring ASF to line up from miles away, if I go straight in to runway the next thing is to shutdown dcs ... almost always do 45, 90, 180 degrees turns to land, more fun and challenging.

Flying in perfect weather is boring and something tells me you've never actually flown an ILS.

ILostSight ... boring system, good for fat airliners in xplane. Here is boring ASF to line up from miles away, if I go straight in to runway the next thing is to shutdown dcs ... almost always do 45, 90, 180 degrees turns to land, more fun and challenging.

I'm guessing you don't generally use approach charts?:)

IRL you cannot do an overhead brake at every airport, try following proper IRL procedures in IMC can be a good challenge! If or when ED adds civi AI aircraft in? yes, just like those other sims, you might just have to call tower and fly the approach plate.:cry:

... something tells me you've never actually flown an ILS.

The only time an ILS approach isn't boring is when it's tied to a circling approach ;)

For me a low visibility ILS approach is always exciting.

Flying in perfect weather is boring and something tells me you've never actually flown an ILS.

Who asked you? Are you actually capable of posting without patronising people and bringing up your RW experience?

Who asked you? Are you actually capable of posting without patronising people and bringing up your RW experience?

Interesting.

ILostSight ... boring system, good for fat airliners in xplane. Here is boring ASF to line up from miles away, if I go straight in to runway the next thing is to shutdown dcs ... almost always do 45, 90, 180 degrees turns to land, more fun and challenging.

Who asked you? Are you actually capable of posting without patronising people and bringing up your RW experience?

Flying in perfect weather is boring and something tells me you've never actually flown an ILS.

Everyone is entitled to their preference and regardless of whether you think an Instrument approach is 'boring' or not - there are members of the community who enjoy flying missions in adverse weather conditions while using realistic and appropriate procedures to recover to an airfield.

I for example enjoy simulating USMC and RAAF hornet ops so my squadron mates and I would appreciate the ability to shoot a pairs ILS approach in crappy weather. ILS approaches to land bases can be quite a challenge when executed in poor weather.

slow down gang ! :)))

@Gripes323...yea, you're funny ! satisfied ?:))

@BSS_Sniper nope, not even close ! flown almost any type of aircraft built in fsx/xplane10&11/dcs that has ILS compatible systems, did not try inverted though I must admit :) not that hard to look for/insert freqs :))) I did not say I hate it, just its boring in a fast paced, combat environment :) I love it in civilian sims though, because safety is top priority :) still ils/cat is a luxury in most parts of the world ... ndb is your lucky bet

@David OC , I kinda stopped using charts when xp11 went live, miss the fsx atc ...

yes you can build your missions in dcs and follow only IFR rules to the letter, but for me the lack of a decent ATC, combat environment, lack of time ..

can't start everytime from cold, respecting charts/plates and being showdown my a sam/aaa in the mission {play most cas role}..tried, tastes bitter :)))

its your time & its your business what you do with it ! peace :)

Everyone is entitled to their preference and regardless of whether you think an Instrument approach is 'boring' or not - there are members of the community who enjoy flying missions in adverse weather conditions while using realistic and appropriate procedures to recover to an airfield.

 

I for example enjoy simulating USMC and RAAF hornet ops so my squadron mates and I would appreciate the ability to shoot a pairs ILS approach in crappy weather. ILS approaches to land bases can be quite a challenge when executed in poor weather.

yea, but you wont hurt any enemy in those conditions :) I agree the harsh weather is challenging to say at least :pilotfly:

yea, but you wont hurt any enemy in those conditions :) I agree the harsh weather is challenging to say at least :pilotfly:

Speak for yourself :D

Great find drPhibes!

Here's a quick Groom Lake ICLS for Rwy 32.

CRS 324

ID "UFO"

CH 13

Enjoy!

ICLS Modded Beacons file.zip

Ok, first you'll have to fire up your favorite text editor (Notepad++ in my case), and find the beacons.lua for the terrain where you want to add the beacon. The file are located in \DCS World\Mods\terrains\[terrain name]

Thanks, drPhibes, your simple modification gives highly useful results.

Maybe a stupid question, in your first post concerning ICLS to ILS you said:

"If anyone is interested, I can post a short "how to"-guide (NOTE: Not IC compatible)."

What is "IC" ?

What is "IC" ?

IC=Integrity Check i.e. the MP check for a clean, unmodded client.

In case anyone missed it, my complete(-ish) beaon mod for the PG map is available here: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=217594

Soo, if the airport has a tacan channel displayed in the F10 map or ME, are they supposed to work in the Hornet yet? I haven't seen one working channel in the Persian Gulf map yet..

Look the number of the runway, the number of the runway is your course.

with a zero added, of course :)

Caucasus data sheet:

I put this together, you might find it helpful...all the quick info you need for setting up threshold waypoints, tuning into airfield radios, tacan etc.

complete package:

https://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=192008&d=1534205593