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Ok - since the F14 has been released I am very tempted to get another VR headset. I bought the Rift and hand controllers directly from Oculus when they first where released. Visited a mate over the weekend and had a go in his rift in the F14, immersion is massive, the resolution seems to be a bit better also since I sold my rift

 

So do I get a Pimax 5k+ or should I buy another rift which I can collect today from Argos lol

 

Be curious to hear what you guys think?

 

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Rift CV1 is at the end of lifecycle. Oculus is supposed to announce new headset this week, at least the specs will be known, availability in the following months.

 

Pimax, you can try, but you have to get in line. I think the waiting time is still measured in months.

 

Worth looking at other headsets like Odyssey+ if you want something right now.

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Oculus has a couple of announcements at GDC 2019 later today.

Speculation is one of them will be about an upgraded Rift. Just speculation though.

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Oculus has a couple of announcements at GDC 2019 later today.

Speculation is one of them will be about an upgraded Rift. Just speculation though.

 

OK thanks, ill wait till later to see whats happening then :) thanks for then infomration

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I would say wait till Oculus news are released, and then either get in line for Pimax 5+, or buying a second hand Rift or brand new Odyssey+

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Yeah. Id wait. HP just announced ther 2160x2160 display which apparently smokes everything out there right now. Other manufactures will probably announce their stuff this week too.

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excellent - really looking forward to the next gen in VR to be honest, while the first gen gave that immersion factor, hopefully the second gen will give the resolutions lol :)

 

The HP one does look very interesting though

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excellent - really looking forward to the next gen in VR to be honest, while the first gen gave that immersion factor, hopefully the second gen will give the resolutions lol :)

 

The HP one does look very interesting though

 

Yeah that one has really caught my eye.

Hoping Oculus does something very soon - I really like their platform and the Touch Controllers are awesome. I really enjoy other Touch games as well.

 

If Oculus does not come through soon, then yeah I may just pick this one up.

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excellent - really looking forward to the next gen in VR to be honest, while the first gen gave that immersion factor, hopefully the second gen will give the resolutions lol :)

 

The HP one does look very interesting though

 

Once I get an actual desktop (2 more weeks ;) ) this is probably the next thing on my list unless the new cosmos or rift-S look better. Which we should hopefully find out in the next month or so at the latest.

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New Rift S has been announced.

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And its disappointing...

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You might have to wait a while, the new occulus business model looks to be to focus on the mid/low end of the market for now. Which does make sense, a very small minority of gamers own high end GFX cards needed to run high end VR.

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At this point I would certainly wait on release of the HP Reverb FR Pro. Early reviews indicate significant leap in resolution.

 

I have not seen any reason to consider the Pro over the standard Reverb.

Not that big a price difference though...

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I have not seen any reason to consider the Pro over the standard Reverb.

Not that big a price difference though...

 

The only thing I saw was you get a nicer face pad. Probably some better warranty too.

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Nicer but the consumer version looks like it's detachable and washable. More of a plus. But it's looking like this is a day one purchase since Rift S was a swing and a miss for us DCS folks.

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I'm not so disappointed by rift s. I mean: it increases resolution only slightly, but it has better optics and pixels are less noticeable in a LCD screen, so I want to see more reviews when it will be on shelves. A 2160*2160 per eye reverb resolution is of course better, but what kind of GPU do you need to drive it? Consider DCS is very demanding. Is it worth it to buy a super-crisp headset to run it at 20 fps?

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If you have a high end card i would think you can run DCS with it. Maybe not perfectly but guys are running pimax which is aboutbas demanding.

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Rift S looks disappointing to say the least for DCS IMO, at least compared to the competition and other options coming. Odyssey+ I've had decent success with, I was a very early adopter for the Rift/Vive, and have owned both Odyssey, the Rift, both Vives, and a Pimax5k. For $250 right now you can get the Odyssey+, which wouldn't be a bad option for trying out VR.

 

 

Barring that, IMO wait for the new HP Reverb and see what the verdict is with it for DCS, and if $ is no object, consider it or perhaps the Pimax 5k as well.

 

 

 

You'll need some horsepower so far as your system goes no matter which VR unit you go with...

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