DCS : F4U-1 Corsair

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That's not quite compareable.

 

The Grom was able to be carried by the MiG-21bis, just not on this particular variant.

It's a very small leap.

 

As an example; AIM-120 on the F-14 is too much for us. KH-66 on the MiG-21 is not.

Really? That's where you draw the line? It's literally the same thing. The

F-14 could carry them and just needed a slightly different radar to use it.

The MiG-21 could carry the Grom, but needed a whole different radar to use it.

It's literally THE SAME THING. Literally. As in, the actual original definition of the word.

Is this getting clipped wings??

Really? That's where you draw the line? It's literally the same thing. The

 

F-14 could carry them and just needed a slightly different radar to use it.

 

The MiG-21 could carry the Grom, but needed a whole different radar to use it.

 

It's literally THE SAME THING. Literally. As in, the actual original definition of the word.

I'd rather not get into a discussion on this here; but the line is not drawn in terms of technical differences. (And even then, the difference in technical changes alone is larger)

The KH-66 (-23 & RS-2US) were widely used weapons and frequently used on various MiG-21 and -23 variants.

The AIM-120 on the Tomcat was an experimental one-launch two drop test which was scrapped.

It played no part in the F-14's legacy or service, and certainly not to the extent the RS-2US and KH-23/66 did on the MiG-21.

I'd rather not get into a discussion on this here; but the line is not drawn in terms of technical differences. (And even then, the difference in technical changes alone is larger)

 

The KH-66 (-23 & RS-2US) were widely used weapons and frequently used on various MiG-21 and -23 variants.

The AIM-120 on the Tomcat was an experimental one-launch two drop test which was scrapped.

 

It played no part in the F-14's legacy or service, and certainly not to the extent the RS-2US and KH-23/66 did on the MiG-21.

The only way that is true is if the F-14B Tomcat LN is modeling does not have the so called "bombcat" upgrade, as the bus required for AMRAAM employment was included on the aircraft as it was required for use of the LANTIRN pod.

The only reason why the AMRAAM is not part of the "legacy of service" of the F-14, is solely based on the fact the aircraft was retired early. AMRAAM integration had been planned from the inception of the program, merely the loss of Cold War era budgets resulted it being cut. Furthermore, the entire weapon "pallet" concept existed so that new and unplanned for weapons could be integrated with minimal modification to the aircraft as well as to assist in aircraft turnaround. It could easily be argued that weapon flexibility was indeed part of the "legacy of service" for the F-14 as designed.

Is this getting clipped wings??

Having the FAA version would be nice but I'm guessing we'll only get the USN / Marines version based on their map plans. Would be sweet to have the Corsair Mk IV as well as a British carrier somewhere down the line though.

The only way that is true is if the F-14B Tomcat LN is modeling does not have the so called "bombcat" upgrade, as the bus required for AMRAAM employment was included on the aircraft as it was required for use of the LANTIRN pod.

 

The only reason why the AMRAAM is not part of the "legacy of service" of the F-14, is solely based on the fact the aircraft was retired early. AMRAAM integration had been planned from the inception of the program, merely the loss of Cold War era budgets resulted it being cut. Furthermore, the entire weapon "pallet" concept existed so that new and unplanned for weapons could be integrated with minimal modification to the aircraft as well as to assist in aircraft turnaround. It could easily be argued that weapon flexibility was indeed part of the "legacy of service" for the F-14 as designed.

It is not getting AMRAAM's and shouldnt be getting AMRAAM's either in my book.

Please, can move the "ammram" conversation to the F-14 post and no continue hijack the F4U-1 post?

It is not getting AMRAAM's and shouldnt be getting AMRAAM's either in my book.

Which is fine, just don't try to play it off as "oh well, it didn't meet our criteria, the same criteria we've used before."

Call it what it is. It was an arbitrary decision made because of the backlash when we started talking about it, not because it's any less realistic than a Sapphire equipped MiG-21 slinging Groms around.

Were the F4U's deployed on all carrier types or only specific ones? (like the CV-6 or the CV-2)

Corsair was deployed on escort carriers too (everything depended on the catapult, of course).

Is there any image about corsair use catapult to take off from the deck?

Is there any image about corsair use catapult to take off from the deck?

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Man, I keep having dreams that the Corsair comes out, and I fly it.

Then, I wake up. Bummer.

Here is another good picture of my "birdcage"-love from VMF-213 ready for take-off on a route to Solomons, using a catapult, in March 1943.

Amazing pictures! Thanks for sharing. I would think it would be pretty nerve-wracking being strapped to that carrier and trusting it to launch you over the ocean without fault. I wonder if anyone has any statistics of launch failures and how common they were.

Yeah, I had high hopes for F4U earlier as well. It got a little bit boring since last ww2 module was released. And Corsair is just something different.

Over a year now since the last WWII release and no Spit/P-47 until mid/end of the year. I'd fly the Wildcat on the online servers at this point if it came out today ... release the Corsair when its ready and ship the map plus extras later.

Funnily, I have something else about WW II been waiting forever, and no body talks about it : WfrGr 21 and R4M rockets on German warbirds, perhaps as well as a few AB cluster bombs.

Aynway that completely completely off topic for thread... I'm looking forward to F4U, but also looking forward to hear what sort of air to ground ordnance will be included with it :).

Well see with EDs carriers coming out if the carrier ops becomes a thing.

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That would be a Korean war livery correct?

That would be a Korean war livery correct?

It could be cheked by insignia with red lines, which was introduced in January 1947.

That would be a Korean war livery correct?

Yup, It is an F4U-4B on the USS Rendova CVE-114.

I have 2 questions for devs. Are you modeling the AN/M2 yourself or are you going to use the existing one and are you modeling different ammo types for this .50cals? Like M8 API or M1 I etc. And with it new effects?

Second question. Are you going to model fuel and hydraulic leaks or is it something that DCS cannot support?

Thx. :)