While waiting for the LGBs...

let's see if you can figure out the following: What is the type of LGB used and what was special about it? Also, what was the name of the carrier in this scene...something else to watch is the pilot's work with the right DDI prior to "Coming down"....what was he pressing???

let's see if you can figure out the following: What is the type of LGB used and what was special about it? Also, what was the name of the carrier in this scene...something else to watch is the pilot's work with the right DDI prior to "Coming down"....what was he pressing???

 

 

 

I remember this scene

IRL can the LGB find the reflected laser spot through the cloud cover ?

That'd be a Inert GBU-12 from the looks of it.

Looks like he just switches from HSI to Stores and then selects the bomb - though his master arm is still off (still says 'SAFE') and he hasn't set the fuze (doesn't have the option actually now it's in higher res). Also doesn't seem to be in AG mode. Funny that they seemed to use a real Hornet for it instead of just mocking one up though.

Also, for those with OCD about advisory messages, don't look at the left DDI, it'll give you a heart attack:

Edit: Found a source with higher resolution here:

If everything is wrong with the plane.. nothing is wrong. :D

Oh and according to the DDI it's a GBU-12 - 82LG is the abbreviation for it on the stores page. If you mean what was special about it in the film, it's that it was supposedly a paper-cased bomb (rather than steel), though that's obviously not true.

Lmao 48kts? Did they just leave a jet on the ground with ground power and spin the Kollsman window until the altimeter showed 3910 feet?

Lmao 48kts? Did they just leave a jet on the ground with ground power and spin the Kollsman window until the altimeter showed 3910 feet?

I'm guessing it's sat on the ramp / hangar at NAS Fallon ("Elevation AMSL 3,934 ft / 1,199 m"): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Air_Station_Fallon

The bomb in the initial scene is a GBU-16, training with the BDU-54 body.

Nah, what you are seeing there is the real Hornet still in early access. That's how good Eagle Dynamics are.

Considering how many movies were totally lazy in being even close to accurate, hats off to these guys who did put quite an effort. You notice these things only if you're pilot (or sim pilot) but for most of the folks, it looks quite "realistic".

Oh and according to the DDI it's a GBU-12 - 82LG is the abbreviation for it on the stores page. If you mean what was special about it in the film, it's that it was supposedly a paper-cased bomb (rather than steel), though that's obviously not true.

Bingo, although could it be done?...I mean, if you wanted to make it look like a car bomb, you would not want them to find steel casing fragments (if that's even possible)

The carrier was the USS Kitty Hawk and did you notice on the launch, how quickly the pilot banked to his right coming off the cat?

That'd be a Inert GBU-12 from the looks of it.

Yep, The bomb dropped has a blue casing, which means that it is a dummy/practice round. Live bombs are painted olive green. And yes, this is a 500 lb Paveway II

Bingo, although could it be done?...I mean, if you wanted to make it look like a car bomb, you would not want them to find steel casing fragments (if that's even possible)

It might just be these types of munitions are there in real life.

The carrier was the USS Kitty Hawk and did you notice on the launch, how quickly the pilot banked to his right coming off the cat?

It may be intentional OR the weight of the bomb attached to the right wing (left wing appears to have no payload attached) simply 'pulled' the aircraft to the right, the moment the wheels lost contact with the ground.

The carrier was the USS Kitty Hawk and did you notice on the launch, how quickly the pilot banked to his right coming off the cat?

Perhaps in the movie, it was executed sooner than standard dme.

Does anyone know of departure pattern for the Hornet. I know there a number of patterns for departure.

I watched vid where it says normal departure pattern for the Hornet from a carrier is after clearing off the deck and at certain dme from carrier, you bank to the right to stay off the BRC (deconfliction of the recovery course) and later at a certain Dme, you merge with the BRC.

 

Perhaps in the movie, it was executed sooner than standard dme.

 

Does anyone know of departure pattern for the Hornet. I know there a number of patterns for departure.

I found this from NATOPS "After lift-off, the initial climb attitude to 1,200 feet AGL varies with existing weather conditions. However, an initial pitch attitude of 15 to 20° is a good starting point. Afterburner operation requires a 5 to 10° higher pitch attitude. Do not exceed 25° of pitch attitude. Select landing gear UP and flaps AUTO when definitely airborne. Climb out at 200 to 220 knots."

I‘m under the impression that for carrier takeoffs you are supposed to stay below 500ft until you are outside of a 7NM bubble around the carrier to be vertically separated from arriving traffic.

I‘m under the impression that for carrier takeoffs you are supposed to stay below 500ft until you are outside of a 7NM bubble around the carrier to be vertically separated from arriving traffic.

It looks like case 3 launch is different from case 1 and case 2 launch.

Looks like his HUD is off too ????????????

My impression is 600ft until 7nm dme. An S-turn of 20degrees of launch course to the right is required to separate from base recovery course.

It looks like case 3 launch is different from case 1 and case 2 launch.

Yeah, I think someone told 500, somewhere else I recall having heard 600ft. And I believe it was the same source that also talked about 20° S-turn. :smilewink:

500ft is correct. Here are the Case I/II/III procedures.

Case I Departure. After a clearing turn, proceed straight ahead paralleling the BRC at 500 feet until 7 nm. Aircraft are then cleared to climb unrestricted in visual conditions.

Case II Departure. After a clearing turn, proceed straight ahead at 500 feet paralleling the BRC. At 7 nm, turn to intercept the 10-nm arc, maintaining visual conditions until established on the departure radial. The 500-foot restriction is lifted after 7 nm if the climb can be continued in visual conditions. Jets shall maintain 300 knots until VMC on top.

Case III Departure. Climb straight ahead accelerating at 300 knots crossing 5 nm at 1,500 feet or above. At 7 nm, execute turn to fly the 10-nm arc until intercepting the departure radial.

Here's the CV NATOPS for those interested: NATOPS

Looks like he just switches from HSI to Stores and then selects the bomb - though his master arm is still off (still says 'SAFE') and he hasn't set the fuze (doesn't have the option actually now it's in higher res). Also doesn't seem to be in AG mode. Funny that they seemed to use a real Hornet for it instead of just mocking one up though.

 

Also, for those with OCD about advisory messages, don't look at the left DDI, it'll give you a heart attack:

 

 

Edit: Found a source with higher resolution here:

Isn't that a different type of Stores page?

You can tell how old this aircraft really is since its using the old HSI instead of the MPCD the newer upper lots had