javelina1 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Apples and oranges, regarding A/G operations the A-10C is a pure CAS/Tank buster platform with lots of station time, as for the F/A-18C it's a deep/precision strike and anti ship platform, fast in, fast out. Cannot compare the two at all, it would be like comparing the Spitfire and Mustang, two different planes for different roles the cool thing is, we've got both and can enjoy 'em! :) MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dafiew Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 the cool thing is, we've got both and can enjoy 'em! :) Yes and other very cool modules in the near future, all the new models being developped right now are going to make module developement a lot faster in the future and bring other modules to whole new level like the new IR modeling for the A-10C and the litening :D:thumbup: Simflyin' since 1985 :smartass: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbus Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 At this moment, the A10C is a more fun module for me. Can't explain why, it might have to do with the specialization. The A10 was made for one thing and one thing only and that's to bring pain to the ground. The F18, while more modern, more versatile and overall the better choice, just isn't quite as fun. I'm sure it will evolve with time though and both choices and great. Wibuz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagg Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 The Hog wins only on the HOTAS side because it is truly Hands on Thrust and Stick. In the F18 you have to click buttons on forward cockpit almost for everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyman Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=218861 might reduce that difference, especially in VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Cannot compare the two at all, it would be like comparing the Spitfire and Mustang, two different planes for different roles Interesting, Dafiew, I thought they were both basically air superiority fighters. What are the differing roles between the Spitfire and Mustang? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dafiew Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Interesting, Dafiew, I thought they were both basically air superiority fighters. What are the differing roles between the Spitfire and Mustang? The spitfire is a short range interceptor with a very defined and limited role, intercepting enemy planes, the mustang on the other hand is a multirole high altitude long range attack and escort fighter that can do pretty much anything very well, only surpassed by the P-47 as it is the best multirole aircraft of the WW2 era :thumbup: Simflyin' since 1985 :smartass: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Nice, that's good to know. Maybe explains why I have so much trouble with the Spitfire at high altitudes. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budguy68 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 I have both and I always go back to the A10C. Although I am still learning the Ka50 and F18. The A10C is a more complete module than the F18. As far as I know we're still missing the FLIR POD and Arrams and ground radar. It also feels like there is a lot more debt to the A10C cockpit. I feel like its more complicated which sorta adds to the fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vantskruv Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 With the Maple Flags training missions, the A10C feels complete, as you are forced to learn the ins and outs of the machine, and naturally, this makes it much more fun. With the other planes, you do not get the right feel and it is not fun to learn when you do not get educated with the "real" procedures, as you do in the A10C. Hence, the machine is most fun when you master it. The F18 just feels like it is guess and play, and also it is not complete. The KA50 is a lot of fun, and I really miss a similar campaign as the Maple Flags campaign for the A10C, it feels like you are not able to learn it fully. But the KA50 is a total different game than flying the A10, F18 or other aeroplanes. So to sum it up, for me, a thorough realistic learning campaign is what is needed to make most fun of any aircraft, it feels like you are going in school, i.e. like the Top Gun school. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahmed Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 I think that DCS is, at the moment, more tailored to CAS operations, that's why, personal preferences apart, the A-10C or the KA-50 may offer a more fun environment. Also, the Hornet is far from complete and at the moment offers limited capabilities. With larger maps and a dynamic campaign, DCS may become more multirole in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scuby Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 I think that DCS is, at the moment, more tailored to CAS operations, that's why, personal preferences apart, the A-10C or the KA-50 may offer a more fun environment. Also, the Hornet is far from complete and at the moment offers limited capabilities. With larger maps and a dynamic campaign, DCS may become more multirole in the future. Completely agree. In any sim, for me it is fidelity and dept first. My specific attraction to the A10C is the proximity to surface action (CAS) and weapon versatility. This uniqueness complements nicely with other more fast/A2A/multirole/bvr/high altitude strike oriented sims and a/c. | AMD RYZEN 5900X | INNO3D RTX 4080 ICHILL | G.SKILL 3200-C14 32GB | ASUS X570-E GAMING | LG 27GP850 2K/QHD | | TM HOTAS COUGAR | VPC WARBRD BASE | MFG CROSSWIND V2 | G.TRIX JETSEAT KW908 | HP REVERB G2 | YouTube: ScubyFlying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmy Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 The Hornet will never significantly affect my time in the Warthog. The Viper, on the other hand... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.476vfightergroup.com/content.php High Quality Aviation Photography For Personal Enjoyment And Editorial Use. www.crosswindimages.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The LT Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 One word. Avionics. Plain and simple. They suck. They're dull. Uninspiring. Boring. Unintuitive. Pathetic. The FBW doesn't help too. Give me A-10C any time. Waiting for the Viper... My controls & seat Main controls: , BRD-N v4 Flightstick (Kreml C5 controller), TM Warthog Throttle (Kreml F3 controller), BRD-F2 Restyling Bf-109 Pedals w. damper, TrackIR5, Gametrix KW-908 (integrated into RAV4 seat) Stick grips: Thrustmaster Warthog Thrustmaster Cougar (x2) Thrustmaster F-16 FLCS BRD KG13 Standby controls: BRD-M2 Mi-8 Pedals (Ruddermaster controller) BRD-N v3 Flightstick w. exch. grip upgrade (Kreml C5 controller) Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle Pilot seat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirusAM Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 One word. Avionics. Plain and simple. They suck. They're dull. Uninspiring. Boring. Unintuitive. Pathetic. The FBW doesn't help too. Give me A-10C any time. Waiting for the Viper... the Viper is fbw as well...and its avionics is similar to the hornet’s one R7-5800X3D 64GB RTX-4090 LG-38GN950 Valve Index VPForce Rhino FFB, Virpil F-14 (VFX) Grip, Virpil Alpha Grip, Virpil CM3 Throttle + Control Panel 2, Winwing Orion (Skywalker) Pedals, Razer Tartarus V2 SpeedMaster Flight Seat, JetSeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The LT Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 fbw, yes. similar avionics - no. Compare the hotas controls. Same TMS/DMS, albeit a somewhat simpler implementation. Still better than the bug.the Viper is fbw as well...and its avionics is similar to the hornet’s one My controls & seat Main controls: , BRD-N v4 Flightstick (Kreml C5 controller), TM Warthog Throttle (Kreml F3 controller), BRD-F2 Restyling Bf-109 Pedals w. damper, TrackIR5, Gametrix KW-908 (integrated into RAV4 seat) Stick grips: Thrustmaster Warthog Thrustmaster Cougar (x2) Thrustmaster F-16 FLCS BRD KG13 Standby controls: BRD-M2 Mi-8 Pedals (Ruddermaster controller) BRD-N v3 Flightstick w. exch. grip upgrade (Kreml C5 controller) Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle Pilot seat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrench Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 I'd say it depends on what you like. The A-10 is the thing that finally got me into flight sims because the idea of doing the CAS mission as only the A-10 can is very appealing for me. Some guys like the multirole thing, and some guys like going fast. You will do neither in the A-10. Carrier Script. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullcoupe Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) Since I've been using VR, the A-10 cockpit just doesn't feel like the -18, which is expected considering the module was designed pre-VR. Perspectives and depth just seems off. Some updates to the cockpit (which IIRC are somewhere in the pipeline) would be welcomed, and would definitely get me flying it more. That aside, the A-10 is still a blast to fly even though it's not as fast or maneuverable. It keeps you in the combat area much longer, which means more play time with targets and that's the fun part. I don't really care for the CM system on the Hornet. The A-10 has a quick and easy interface for both programming and modes and I do miss that sometimes. Not a fault of the aircraft, but I just dread tanking via the basket (also a gripe for the Harrier and M2000). The boom is so much easier to me. That's another thing I miss.... Edited January 4, 2019 by fullcoupe i7 9700k @ 4.9 GHz | Asus Z390-A | EVGA 1080Ti SC2 | Oculus Rift + Touch | TM HOTAS Warthog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirusAM Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 read the today newsletter it is infact on the pipeline along with a ka50 rework R7-5800X3D 64GB RTX-4090 LG-38GN950 Valve Index VPForce Rhino FFB, Virpil F-14 (VFX) Grip, Virpil Alpha Grip, Virpil CM3 Throttle + Control Panel 2, Winwing Orion (Skywalker) Pedals, Razer Tartarus V2 SpeedMaster Flight Seat, JetSeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubiz Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Both of the airplanes are just great. Prefering the F/A-18 bit more right now, but still like the hog a lot! :-) GIGABYTE Z390 GAMING X | i5 9600k @4.7 GHz | Noctua NH-U14S | MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Ti @OCed | Patriot 32GB DDR4 2666MHz | 1TB SSD + 1TB HDD | Win10 | Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog + WarBRD | Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals | 1440p AOC Q2790PQU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dailey123 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 I also prefer the F-18 and the multi role capabilities one of my favorite modules so far. The speed is decent can carry lot of bombs and can do lot of task. Only thing i dont like about hornet is other fighters like F-15 feel so much easier when dogfighting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBillKelsoe Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 the GUN.. period.. AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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