VEAO ends all their DCS development

Nothing has changed with our Hawk license agreement with VEAO and our relationship regarding the Hawk. We hope they will continue supporting it.

 

If anything changes, we will make a statement regarding it going forward.

Interesting, thanks! So this decision is entirely on VEAO and it's kinda weird that they inform the public before informing ED that they cease to stop all their work on DCS. :huh:

Nothing has changed with our Hawk license agreement with VEAO and our relationship regarding the Hawk. We hope they will continue supporting it.

 

If anything changes, we will make a statement regarding it going forward.

Well, this statement is a pretty clear indication that they're either not willing or they're incapable of supporting the product. A statement in this regard would be much better sooner rather than later.

Sorry to hear this, best of luck in the future VEAO!

Sad news indeed...

So anyone who paid for a module hoping for continued support and development should hopefully get some sort of compensation? The Hawk is completely unfinished and buggy. Thanks for the opportunity, I guess.

Well, this statement is a pretty clear indication that they're either not willing or they're incapable of supporting the product. A statement in this regard would be much better sooner rather than later.

Agree. It would be very weird to leave a product of a company that no longer exists and has ceased all work on said product on the store website. Imagine someone new to DCS buys it without knowing that the developer already completey gave up on it. That would not reflect well on DCS at all.

Well, this statement is a pretty clear indication that they're either not willing or they're incapable of supporting the product.

Yes, sounds like no support there. Have ED plan give Hawk under his wings?

Agree. It would be very weird to leave a product of a company that no longer exists and has ceased all work on said product on the store website. Imagine someone new to DCS buys it without knowing that the developer already completey gave up on it. That would not reflect well on DCS at all.

I was just thinking of the existing customers, but this is an even bigger concern. This is an excellent point.

So happy I did not buy the Hawk on the sale. I like that bird. Now, I could maybe trade my bonus points for it. Lord knows they are not worth for much else at this point in time :D

Yes, sounds like no support there. Have ED plan give Hawk under his wings?

As Nineline mentioned, legally nothing was changed regarding to agreements. So IMO it stays as it is.

If there comes a decision that ED would re-make everything from scratch without using any VEAO's work; maybe that's possible.. Something similar to blackshark 1 versus 2.

Will Hawk stay for purchase in DCS shop anymore?

As Nineline mentioned, legally nothing was changed regarding to agreements. So IMO it stays as it is.

They should refund everyone who bought the Hawk.

I actually enjoy the Hawk, and I've ran into others that enjoy it. So not everyone is interested in a refund.

it is cut and dry disingenuous to continue to sell this module without a disclaimer that the development has officially ceased. if you want to continue to sell it, you should come up with a solution take possession of the source materials and continue development in-house as a first party module. The way I see it, VEAO got their effort's worth of money by selling a buggy unfinished module to the people who already own it, and ending support at a drop of a hat.

If ED wants to continue development of the hawk and sales, they should be entitled to most if not all of the profits going forward. Of course thats just my two cents.

I actually enjoy the Hawk, and I've ran into others that enjoy it. So not everyone is interested in a refund.

I also enjoy the hawk, but I am simply unable to get my moneys worth out of it because of the bugs that plague it. I basically only get to enjoy it in the Mach Loop or formation flight instant actions.

lol

lol

lol indeed, VEAO has done CTRL+E * 3

It appears Bluesky is dead as well -- their website is also down.

They're currently continuing under "Porrima Simulations"

Saw the post on facebook, just watch how professional is Heatblur or Razbam, you can't just take people's money and then say " sorry dcs is not for us, bye " they're thief.

Saw the post on facebook, just watch how professional is Heatblur or Razbam, you can't just take people's money and then say " sorry dcs is not for us, bye " they're thief.

+ 10000000000000000

I’m sure that if they do not support it there is a clause ED gets all their licenses.

The best solution would be a continuing support by ED. If they bring the Hawk to the same level with the L39 and also with multicrew, a lot of squadron would appreciate a western multicrew trainer.

But the C101 will kinda fill the same role and they might have to start at zero.

That‘s pretty bad! Bought the Hawk during my DCS restart two weeks ago without discount! Hope someone will take over the Hawk. If it´s just discontinued I think it was the last module I bought without discount. Also interesting that this is announced on Facebook but not here were they sell / support (?) their products. Let´s see what´s next.

I feel bad for the owners of the Hawk and those that paid for the P-40. Hawk owners never got their money's worth and the P-40 turned out to be vaporware at best or a scam at worst. Unfortunately, this was probably the only real option left for VEAO since their name has long been synonymous with underperformance.

For the last few months it has been foreseeable it would come to this point...

Not a big loss for the DCS community, I feel sorry to say.

Nothing has changed with our Hawk license agreement with VEAO and our relationship regarding the Hawk. We hope they will continue supporting it.

 

If anything changes, we will make a statement regarding it going forward.

I hate to say this and kick the horse while its down( i do like to do that) but "We hope they will continue supporting it." there not lets be real. The last update from them was Patch DCS 2.5.2.20036 Update 8 08-01-2018 and before that was 2.5.1 04-25-2018. SO lets say they did patch every 4 months december would be the next update at the best but then this came around. It sounds like they stopped supporting it a long time ago.