Pandacat Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 It is well known that f-14's radar can track up to 24 targets and engage 6 simultaneously. Just wonder this capability is only restricted to AIM-54 missiles? Can you engage multiple targets for AIM-7 at the same time? My guess is no since AIM-7 needs the radar to focus its energy to paint the target for terminal guidance, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayos Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I doubt it. STT would be required for AIM-7 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadoga Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Correct, the AWG-9 can guide Sparrows to only one target at a time in STT. Dividing the radar energy onto two more guidance beams analogue to STT would require an AESA radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dehuman Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Correct, the AWG-9 can guide Sparrows to only one target at a time in STT. Dividing the radar energy onto two more guidance beams analogue to STT would require an AESA radar. PESA can too e.g Zaslon on MiG-31 and Irbis-E on Su-35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahlbeck Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 At least the JA-37 Viggen and maybe also the Tornado ADV could guide two Sky Flash missiles (Sparrow derivative) simultaneously at different targets. Don't know how much that depended on the radar vs on the missile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probad Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 A version with an active Thomson CSF-developed radar seeker and inertial mid-course update capability, Skyflash Mk 2 (called Active Skyflash), was proposed for both the RAF and Sweden. British interest ended with the 1981 Defence Review; British Aerospace (BAe) kept the proposal around until the early '90s but there were no buyers. is this what you're talking about? because there's simply no way to guide two sarh missiles with a single antenna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahlbeck Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Nope. I'm pretty sure the Viggen could do that though. Skickat från min G8441 via Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uri_ba Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 There is a "flood mode" in some radars. It will CW a cone rather then a target, so multiple missiles can track multiple targets, however, usually in this mode, the missiles lock on to the strongest return, gain or dopler, I don't know, guess it's missle dependent, but then all the missiles will probably lock on to the same target. Creator of Hound ELINT script My pit building blog Few DIY projects on Github: DIY Cougar throttle Standalone USB controller | DIY FCC3 Standalone USB Controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riboyster Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 I used flood mode the other day. What a waste lol. I'm pretty sure the missile was just tracking on chaff the whole time. -SnakeShit [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Peace through Superior Firepower EVERYTHING YOU'LL EVER NEED FOR LOMAC: http://flankertraining.com/ironhand/news.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLTeo Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) Nope. I'm pretty sure the Viggen could do that though. Skickat från min G8441 via Tapatalk If I had to guess, the claims that the Viggen could guide two missiles in TWS mode refer to when they implemented AMRAAMs in the 90s. Edited January 18, 2019 by TLTeo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naquaii Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 You guys have to remember that the Viggens used the Skyflash, not the AIM-7. While similar they were not the same missiles. As for the F-14 it's like you guys are saying, it's STT only apart from the flood mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandacat Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 Thanks for clarifying. Btw, what models of AIM-7 are -A and -B equipping respectively? I know AIM-7M, which was widely used in Gulf War, was definitely on -B. But -A probably was still using AIM-7F. Also, -A was only equipped with 15 chaff and 15 flares according to some source. That low number of counter measures really chills my heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naquaii Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 At first we will have the AIM-7F and AIM-7M but we will likely add at least the AIM-7E2 or E4 eventually and then let the mission designers choose the era. In regards to countermeasures both our -A and -B will have the AN/ALE-39 system that carries 60 cartridges in two 20 sections and two 10 sections. The LAU-138 and aventually the ECA will add to this number when carried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
near_blind Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Are you planning on incorporating ED's H build -7M? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naquaii Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Are you planning on incorporating ED's H build -7M? Not sure exactly as to what you're referring to but we are using the standard ED AIM-7s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
near_blind Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Not sure exactly as to what you're referring to but we are using the standard ED AIM-7s. I was referring to ED's AIM-7MH in game. In real life it was a software upgrade, in game I think that translates to a more aggressive loft profile and better CM rejection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naquaii Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 I was referring to ED's AIM-7MH in game. In real life it was a software upgrade, in game I think that translates to a more aggressive loft profile and better CM rejection. Ok, gotcha, we're using the appropriate standard AIM-7s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 That number of CMs is fine for the type of fighting it was expected to do. In-game people expect to fight off entire air forces. Were there any AIM-7Fs even left in storage by that time? Thanks for clarifying. Btw, what models of AIM-7 are -A and -B equipping respectively? I know AIM-7M, which was widely used in Gulf War, was definitely on -B. But -A probably was still using AIM-7F. Also, -A was only equipped with 15 chaff and 15 flares according to some source. That low number of counter measures really chills my heart. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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