Slap_Chop Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Just curious if any of the P51 pilots or ED testers had noticed any increase in FPS etc. in the new DCS world ? I realize we won't really know until we try BS and A10 in the new world but with your current rigs you might be getting a feel for things. Not saying there should be a performance increase but you know. :) I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy and I've had both. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealN Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 I'd say it's still a bit too early to think about that since there is likely to be some optimization work left to be done. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate--IRL-- Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Why don't you download DCS:- World and find out? Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pappavis Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Just curious if any of the P51 pilots or ED testers had noticed any increase in FPS etc. in the new DCS world ? Yes, there is a small FPS increase. How much FPS, difficult to say. Running the LOFC2 stock Su-25T quickstart mission in DCS:world yields a much smoother framerate. Ground units are much more visible. Gfx in both are at Max settings. met vriendelijke groet, Михель "умный, спортсмен, комсомолетс" [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] [TABLE]SPECS: i9-9900K 32gigs RAM, Geforce 2070RTX, Creative XFi Fata1ity, TIR5, Valve Index & HP Reverb, HOTAS Warthog, Logitech G933 Headset, 10Tb storage.[/TABLE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suchacz Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Yes, there is a small FPS increase. How much FPS, difficult to say. Running the LOFC2 stock Su-25T quickstart mission in DCS:world yields a much smoother framerate. Ground units are much more visible. Gfx in both are at Max settings. Su25T has not as complex systems as other DCS machines and it has no shadows in cockpit and no 6dof. Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuky Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 (edited) I would say no Let me be more exact in my meaning... comparing FC2 and DCS world, the FPS is the same if not worse if I use exact same settings, but there are some graphical improvements so it's expected to have bit worse performance... in FC2 I can use mirrors and have decent framerate with in DCS world mirrors have more impact so I have to turn them off. Edited May 12, 2012 by Kuky No longer active in DCS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_M Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 In the Mustang, the mirrors are clickable, leading to the perfect "On in the air, off on the ground" situation :D The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine! http://www.twitch.tv/rusty_the_robot https://www.youtube.com/user/RustyRobotGaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuky Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 maybe they will make semi-3d pit for other FC2 aircrat like they did with Su-25T :huh: No longer active in DCS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate--IRL-- Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 maybe they will make semi-3d pit for other FC2 aircrat like they did with Su-25T :huh: All the pits are semi-3d are they not? Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALDEGA Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 maybe they will make semi-3d pit for other FC2 aircrat like they did with Su-25TWhat exactly do you mean by semi-3D? All cockpits in Flanker2/Lockon/FC/DCS are 3D. The cockpits prior to DCS have a relatively low amount of geometry, relatively much detail is done using textures. It's not a 2D cockpit like MSFS had them ... Using the same reasoning the P-51D model is semi-3D because the rivets on the fuselage are not part of the geometry, but just textures ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALDEGA Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Just curious if any of the P51 pilots or ED testers had noticed any increase in FPS etc. in the new DCS world ?I haven't noticed any performance differences. It's the same graphics engine which was previously used in DCS, therefore being limited to Direct3D 9.0 features (DirectX9.0c dates back to 2004 ...). Some graphics effects have been changed but nothing dramatic. As far as one can guess, this graphics enigine won't see much more development because another one ("EDGE") is being developed which should make better use of today's graphic cards' capabilities, improving performance and/or visual quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuky Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 by semi-3d I mean, the front pannel, MFD/TV and HUD for example are currently in same plane (I think) so even if you move head left/right you see the front in same perspective... now I noticed in DCS World when Su-25T enables 6DoF the HUD and TV do change perspective a little bit also giving sensation of 3D-ness :) No longer active in DCS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENZIFER Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Why don't you download DCS:- World and find out? Nate ähm...where can i download dcs world ? :huh: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Viper Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 ähm...where can i download dcs world ? :huh: http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/index.php?scr=product&ProductId=18&end_pos=135&lang=en Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENZIFER Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/index.php?scr=product&ProductId=18&end_pos=135&lang=en thanks mate... didn't knew it [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarthogSmurf Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Well Performance isnt like 200% better but I do notice some loading improving and smoother fps. But then again havent tested it with a-10c or ka-50 so how knows. But ED is propably improving some things underneath the hood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krebs20 Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Using the same reasoning the P-51D model is semi-3D because the rivets on the fuselage are not part of the geometry, but just textures ... Not trying to nitpick. If you remove the textures from the p51, you'll see some of the rivets are part of the 3d model. It's an incredible amount of detail on the model. I agree with the rest of what you say. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sofie_59 Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/index.php?scr=product&ProductId=18&end_pos=135&lang=en Sorry for ev been stupid but do i have to pay for that P51 thing to use DCS word? MB:MSI X79A-GD45 CPU:Intel Core i7 3930K 3.2GHz Ram:16 gb Grafik :GTX 680 Sli Win 7 64 bit 1200 W 2 ssd 120 gb 1 2 TB western Digital Caviar Green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Falcon Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Sorry for ev been stupid but do i have to pay for that P51 thing to use DCS word? NO, you can use DCS World for free. To fly the SU-25T online, you need to have one of the other DCS titles installed in DCS world. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The keeper of all mathematical knowledge and the oracle of flight modeling.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sofie_59 Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Ok. Thanks for the answer159th_Falcon! MB:MSI X79A-GD45 CPU:Intel Core i7 3930K 3.2GHz Ram:16 gb Grafik :GTX 680 Sli Win 7 64 bit 1200 W 2 ssd 120 gb 1 2 TB western Digital Caviar Green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALDEGA Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Not trying to nitpick.I was referring to the rivets of the exterior model. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALDEGA Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 by semi-3d I mean, the front pannel, MFD/TV and HUD for example are currently in same plane (I think) so even if you move head left/right you see the front in same perspective... now I noticed in DCS World when Su-25T enables 6DoF the HUD and TV do change perspective a little bit also giving sensation of 3D-ness :)Open the cockpit models for the pre-DCS flyables in ModelViewer (cockpit files --> .\DCS World\Bazar\World\Shapes\Kabina-*.cmd) and switch to custom draw mode (=wireframe [overlay]). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENZIFER Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 i'm gonna test it now :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoaringBones Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 hey no smoking da stuff while testing!:lol::lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENZIFER Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 hey no smoking da stuff while testing!:lol::lol: :cry: i've tested it...it's very good...nice new effects and functions in the toad :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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