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Old 07-24-2019, 11:23 PM   #81
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Lots of wailing on this thread about MAC and how terrible it is that people want it and that it is being made. I've been waiting forever for MAC. I've stopped playing DCS because it takes too much time to master and I don't do multiplayer which the hardcore DCS players prefer. Most people polled on this site prefer SP because it is quicker and doesn't require the investment in time to become competitive online. MP with DCS is for a niche crowd.

I gravitated to DCS when they produced WWII modules, but even that is frustrating. Because of time constraints, I wanted to utilize instant action. But instant action automatically pits your WWII fighter against modern jets which results in getting shot down immediately. Why can't DCS have WWII instant action with strictly WWII A.I. against you automatically? That should be easy, but it is not available.

Anyway, I purchased all of the DCS terrains in anticipation of Modern Air Combat in 2018, but it didn't come out. Fingers crossed. I'm hoping it will arrive before the end of THIS year. It will be very late but very welcome. I will gladly purchase it as a standalone product even though it will mean I purchased all the DCS terrains for nothing.
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Old 07-25-2019, 06:07 AM   #82
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To me it seems logical that MAC starts a huge controversy. Especially here in the DCS Wolrd forum.


Because it should. MAC is designed for another group of users.



Plainsman and others statet their legit view of things. Which I understand.


I hope though that not too many DCS users jump off to MAC and split the community. It would be a bad sign to the devs if less accuracy and less detail would sell more.


And I don't see how MAC can be a positive thing to dev-times of DCS products.


So I hope each side sees and respects the concerns and hopes of the other in this controversy.
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Old 07-25-2019, 07:45 AM   #83
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I dont think so, community is already splitted between PvP multiplayer and "MILSIM" players.

Many play FC3 and full modules for PvP gameplay that needs stability and a "balance" which the actual DCS base cant give them.
Some of them are also complaining about some aircraft are OP or nerfed but they are just wanting to get thing as close as possible to RL.


Imagine give them a game which uses a stable DCS release with a balanced gameplay, dedicated servers , different maps ,etc.
That's their Christmas!

On the other hand DCS World can then move to have a better ATC , Dynamic Campaign , new Weather system,etc with the possible new income from selling MAC.

It's a WIN/WIN situation if they get it right.

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Old 07-25-2019, 08:31 AM   #84
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It's a WIN/WIN situation if they get it right.

I hope you are right.
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Old 07-31-2019, 05:15 AM   #85
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FYI: ED and Wags each quietly removed the original 2018 MAC announcement videos from YouTube sometime in the last couple weeks.



You know, the ones whose description promised it would be a DCS-COMPATIBLE MODULE (NOT standalone), with discount for FC3 owners, and released in FALL 2018.



I wonder why they would remove such videos at all, never-mind why now?
Anybody know?
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Old 07-31-2019, 06:30 AM   #86
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I wonder why they would remove such videos at all, never-mind why now?
Anybody know?
False information and marketing?
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Old 07-31-2019, 06:33 AM   #87
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I wonder why they would remove such videos at all, never-mind why now?
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Probably because it advertised a release in autumn 2018...
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Old 07-31-2019, 04:16 PM   #88
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The information in the thread and video was out of date so was removed.

When ED have new news they will let us all know.

Thanks

Thank you Good Sir, but that is exactly the problem.

Why should we believe anything they say today, if they just delete the promises made in the past? Along with the interactive customer discussions around them....

If they really wanted to convey updated information and their reasons, then they should have simply edited the video description text to add a brief explanation, or even just pinned a comment to the top. You know, like every other YT content creator does. Two minutes and done.

It would have helped to build confidence and trust, in my opinion.
Instead.... well, here we are now, wondering what the heck is going on.
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Probably because it advertised a release in autumn 2018...

If being late was the real reason, then logically they should delete ALL of their announcement videos....
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Old 07-31-2019, 06:17 PM   #90
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Thank you Good Sir, but that is exactly the problem.

Why should we believe anything they say today, if they just delete the promises made in the past? Along with the interactive customer discussions around them....

If they really wanted to convey updated information and their reasons, then they should have simply edited the video description text to add a brief explanation, or even just pinned a comment to the top. You know, like every other YT content creator does. Two minutes and done.

It would have helped to build confidence and trust, in my opinion.
Instead.... well, here we are now, wondering what the heck is going on.
The video was taken down as it, obviously, was not current as far as information. A while a go, Wags did an interview on the subject and explained that it was becoming more than what it had started out to be. More features, more ability to be a standalone game. So for right now, we don't have a lot to share but more news will be coming.

I know its frustrating, and I am sorry it kind of got ahead of itself with the video and such, but I think most will be happy to see what it has become when the time to show more of it comes.
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