CoBlue Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) With Deferred Shading On. If I lower the Gamma so the trees & terrain looks acceptable, the cockpit textures, FLIR(Av8b) & water becomes very dark. It affects more or less all cockpits, way to dark IMO. Seems like Gamma isn't synchronized with terrain & cockpit textures & water. It's either to bright terrain & ok cockpit brightness, or vice-versa. See screen comparison below between 1.5.8 & 2.5. Anything that can be done about that? Edited January 31, 2018 by CoBlue i7 8700k@4.7, 1080ti, DDR4 32GB, 2x SSD , HD 2TB, W10, ASUS 27", TrackIr5, TMWH, X-56, GProR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I've the same issue. Terrain (in Caucasus) is too bright, cockpit is too dark :( Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimDeath Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Same. Played with some setting. Can not seem to get it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raz_Specter Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I am using re-shade 3.0 which seems to work very well, settings of Gamma to 1.8 with DS on Cheers Specter Custom built W10 Pro 64Bit, Intel Core i9 9900k, Asus ROG Maximus Code XI Z390, 64GB DDR4 3200 RGB, Samsung 1TB NVme M.2 Drive, Gigabyte AORUS 2080TI, 40" Iiyama Display. Wacom Cintiq Pro 24, HOTAS Virpil T50 Stick / FA-18C TM Stick and Virpil T50 Throttle, MFG Crosswind Graphite Pedals. HP Reverb SPECTER [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Lead Terrain Developer / Texture Artist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudikoff Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) Same here (with deferred shading off). Did somebody try to delete the shader cache in Saved Games folder that was mentioned in another thread? I can only try that later in the evening. Also, VSync doesn't seem to work for me in 2.5 (it did in 2.2) - the FPS goes over 60 on my 60 Hz screen. I did delete the options.lua file, but now I'm considering to remove the entire user folder for the OB. I am using re-shade 3.0 which seems to work very well, settings of Gamma to 1.8 with DS on Looks pretty good. Which AA settings are you using with the DS on? Edited January 31, 2018 by Dudikoff i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raz_Specter Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Same here (with deferred shading off). Did somebody try to delete the shader cache in Saved Games folder that was mentioned in another thread? I can only try that later in the evening. Also, VSync doesn't seem to work for me in 2.5 (it did in 2.2) - the FPS goes over 60 on my 60 Hz screen. I did delete the options.lua file, but now I'm considering to remove the entire user folder for the OB. Looks pretty good. Which AA settings are you using with the DS on? Hi I have attached my settings, pretty much maxed everything to be honest Cheers Specter Custom built W10 Pro 64Bit, Intel Core i9 9900k, Asus ROG Maximus Code XI Z390, 64GB DDR4 3200 RGB, Samsung 1TB NVme M.2 Drive, Gigabyte AORUS 2080TI, 40" Iiyama Display. Wacom Cintiq Pro 24, HOTAS Virpil T50 Stick / FA-18C TM Stick and Virpil T50 Throttle, MFG Crosswind Graphite Pedals. HP Reverb SPECTER [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Lead Terrain Developer / Texture Artist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudikoff Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I have attached my settings, pretty much maxed everything to be honest Thanks. So, you have no framerate issues with using DS together with MSAA 4x at 4K? i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbak Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Same issue here.....I can make the terrain look good OR the cockpit....not both. Honestly, I'm a little disappointed. I expected the difference in 2.5 to be a little more dramatic. I appreciate the work that went into this. But my terrain textures don't look much different than 1.5 with exception of the trees. I still have that washed out, bluish/green tint. I may have to learn RESHADE. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]WIN 10, i7 10700, 32GB DDR4, RTX 2080 Super, Crucial 1TB SSD, Samsung EVO 850 500GB SSD, TM Warthog with 10cm extension, TIR5, MFG Crosswind Pedals, Wheelstand Pro, LG 40" 4K TV, Razer Black Widow Ultimate KB[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong05 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Same here. Was expecting more dramatic change. I've only seen it through VR though so low res might make it look worse then it is. Same issue here.....I can make the terrain look good OR the cockpit....not both. Honestly, I'm a little disappointed. I expected the difference in 2.5 to be a little more dramatic. I appreciate the work that went into this. But my terrain textures don't look much different than 1.5 with exception of the trees. I still have that washed out, bluish/green tint. I may have to learn RESHADE. 5800X3d, 32GB DDR4@3400, 6800 xt, Reverb G2, Gunfighter/TMWH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange57 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Same for me, same issue. Terrain (in Caucasus) is too bright, cockpit is too dark :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I've the same issue. Terrain (in Caucasus) is too bright, cockpit is too dark :( This. I had to move Gamma to 1.3 in VR to make the world look right...but that then makes the cockpit look much too dark. Hoping it will be tweaked soon. VR Cockpit (link): Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + Otto switches | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper | VPC T-50 Base + 15cm Black Sahaj Extension + TM Hornet or Warthog Grip | Super Warthog Wheel Stand Pro | Steelcase Leap V2 + JetSeat SE VR Rig: Pimax 5K+ | ASUS ROG Strix 1080Ti | Intel i7-9700K | Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master | Corsair H115i RGB Platinum | 32GB Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB 3200 | Dell U3415W Curved 3440x1440 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRaza Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) Glad to see many others are having the same issue as me. Look at this thread for more images with Deferred Shading on and off https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=200806&goto=newpost With DS off, the cockpit looks great but terrain and trees are crappy. FLIR also doesn't work as well With DS on, terrain and FLIR work well but cockpit is too dark and text on my A-10Cs MFCDs is all thick and blotted Edited January 31, 2018 by MRaza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Are you guys Running w/ Global Cockpit Illumination turned on? Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRaza Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Are you guys Running w/ Global Cockpit Illumination turned on? Not sure I'll test that setting when I get home in about...9 hours XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Are you guys Running w/ Global Cockpit Illumination turned on? Thanks, that helps. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollow Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I am using re-shade 3.0 which seems to work very well, settings of Gamma to 1.8 with DS on Cheers Specter Hi, Could you please share the Reshade settings? Regards, Matej Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRaza Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Thanks, that helps. What does global cockpit illumination do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoBlue Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 Are you guys Running w/ Global Cockpit Illumination turned on? It's much better with Global Cockpit Illumination turned on:thumbup:. But still get dark cockpit in certain angles & FLIR is to dark as well. i7 8700k@4.7, 1080ti, DDR4 32GB, 2x SSD , HD 2TB, W10, ASUS 27", TrackIr5, TMWH, X-56, GProR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyCat Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Hi, Could you please share the Reshade settings? Regards, Matej +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) Are you guys Running w/ Global Cockpit Illumination turned on? Yes, I actually do. Cockpit is too dark, terrain too bright. Edit: That actually was before I adjusted my gamma values. I think I found a good compromise now, at least in daylight. But then the cockpit is way too dark when it gets darker outside. Edited January 31, 2018 by QuiGon Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksheep239 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I am using re-shade 3.0 which seems to work very well, settings of Gamma to 1.8 with DS on Cheers Specter What is re shade 3.0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscstaylor Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I am using re-shade 3.0 which seems to work very well, settings of Gamma to 1.8 with DS on Cheers Specter Hey Mith can you post a pic of your graphic settings from in the game. Im just curious what your setting are....Mine are very similar by looking at your screens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Tried flying the F-15C in Nevada to test 2.5 tonight. I found deferred shading still behaving badly as it did in 2.2 in VR. In the fast start free flight and ramp start but works fine in the Landing Mission! Harrier seemed to work in Nevada but Water looked awful on the old 1.5 free flight. I'm using VR Oculus plus 1080ti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sze5003 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I've only seen it in VR and yes the cockpit of the A10 looks very dark. The terrain looks flat colored until I get in the air. Clouds look fine and trees are alright from the air. On the ground they look messed up. I may need to delete the options.lua and reboot the game to set everything back up. Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9 13900K-NZXT Kraken X73 AIO | 32GB DDR5 G Skill Neo 6600mhz | 2TB Sk Hynix P41 Platinum nvme |1TB Evo 970 Plus nvme | OCZ Trion 150 960GB | 256GB Samsung 830 | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | Gigabyte OC 4090 | Phanteks P600S | 1000W MSI MPG A1000G | LG C2 42 Evo 3840x2160 @ 120hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRaza Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) Are you guys Running w/ Global Cockpit Illumination turned on? global cockpit illumination helps make the cockpit a bit less dark but just so you guys know maybe it needs some tweaking because the text on the MFCDs and on all the A-10C's panels and CDU screen is still very thick and blotted. *Look specifically at the blotted text in the highlighted areas in the 2nd picture!* Edited April 22, 2018 by MRaza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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