Manny Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 man, at very near max gross, the 25T flies like a B-52 and forget about maneuvering with a severe load imbalance on the wings. Try and kick a 90 degree bank with rudder and the imbalance and she is near ready to spin right out from underneath ya. I ejected to low and saw my canopy splat on me .. yuck.. the 25T is too addictive. Can't wait the AFM for the FLanker and Fulcrum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny Posted November 24, 2005 Author Share Posted November 24, 2005 Of course it would be nice for ED to put a pylon selection control in LO-MAC to avoid such serious imbalances especialy when deploying ASMs that all tend to be shot off the left side first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 AFM for Flanker and Fulcrum won't see you fly them that much differently. ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Olgerd Posted November 24, 2005 ED Team Share Posted November 24, 2005 AFM for Flanker and Fulcrum won't see you fly them that much differently. ;) From AFM or SFM? ;) edit: hell, just mistyped one letter. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] К чему стадам дары свободы? Их должно резать или стричь. Наследство их из рода в роды Ярмо с гремушками да бич. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny Posted November 24, 2005 Author Share Posted November 24, 2005 From AFM of SFM? ;) I agree with Olgerd, there is definitely a difference between the 25T and 25. There should be a difference between the SFM and AFM. Also, Olgerd, what about the Pylon switch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
504 Wolverine Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 I agree with Olgerd, there is definitely a difference between the 25T and 25. The difference is because the Su-25T has the same engines as the 25 but is aerodynamically different and heavier. It's a flying brick. :icon_lol: Olgerds quote is talking about the difference between AFM and SFM. Not the difference in 25s. Both the su-25 and 25T have AFM. Also, Olgerd, what about the Pylon switch I don't think the 25s have this capability IRL. [/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 Oleg: From SFM. Manny: It -will- be different, yes. Actually, since we already talked about this I'll spare you all my diatribe - I think my feelings on the subject are known. Short story: You'll still fly them the same way. However, anyway, conclusion: Give us AFM for all planes! ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Olgerd Posted November 25, 2005 ED Team Share Posted November 25, 2005 I don't think the 25s have this capability IRL. Yep, it's true for Su-25. And it is not clearly known for Su-25T. edit: to make things a bit clearer. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] К чему стадам дары свободы? Их должно резать или стричь. Наследство их из рода в роды Ярмо с гремушками да бич. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Olgerd Posted November 25, 2005 ED Team Share Posted November 25, 2005 Oleg: From SFM. If so, I am affraid that there will be much difference. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] К чему стадам дары свободы? Их должно резать или стричь. Наследство их из рода в роды Ярмо с гремушками да бич. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
504 Wolverine Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 Yep, it's true. And it is not clearly known for Su-25T. Yes I thought so. Thank you for clearing this up. Also my bad, I used the term 25's in my last post to describe both the 25 and 25T. Should make my posts clearer. :icon_redf [/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonnieRock Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 If so, I am affraid that there will be much difference. I am not scared. Actually, I am anxiously awaiting AFM on the rest of the flyables. If it must only the Russian birds, that would be fine. I dream of non scripted landings( it is kinda fun to slide down the runway in the Su-25T like on ice :icon_wink ) in the figthers as well as load balancing effects after weapons are deployed. It would also be nice because you would have to taxi the figthers for real, not haul a$$ without fear of blowing out a tire. This is the difference I am dreaming of. Challenge to Olgerd: Try to make me affraid :icon_jook Rack Rig: Rosewill RSV-L4000 | Koolance ERM-3K3UC | Xeon E5-1680 v2 @ 4.9ghz w/EK Monoblock | Asus Rampage IV Black Edition | 64GB 2133mhz | SLI TitanXP w/ EK Waterblocks | 2x Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB | Seasonic 1000w Titanium | Windows 10 Pro 64bit | TM Warthog HOTAS w/40cm Extension | MFG Crosswind Rudders | Obutto R3volution | HP Reverb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Olgerd Posted November 25, 2005 ED Team Share Posted November 25, 2005 Challenge to Olgerd: Try to make me affraid :icon_jook Just a moment... What about 20-30 operations in the cockpit (and 20 minutes to wait in the worst case) before takeoff? ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] К чему стадам дары свободы? Их должно резать или стричь. Наследство их из рода в роды Ярмо с гремушками да бич. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ruggbutt Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 Just a moment... What about 20-30 operations in the cockpit (and 20 minutes to wait in the worst case) before takeoff? ;) As Nike says: Just do it! I'm not scared. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Olgerd Posted November 25, 2005 ED Team Share Posted November 25, 2005 As Nike says: Just do it! I'm not scared. :D He-he... Ok. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] К чему стадам дары свободы? Их должно резать или стричь. Наследство их из рода в роды Ярмо с гремушками да бич. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonnieRock Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 He-he... Ok. That is the spirit Rack Rig: Rosewill RSV-L4000 | Koolance ERM-3K3UC | Xeon E5-1680 v2 @ 4.9ghz w/EK Monoblock | Asus Rampage IV Black Edition | 64GB 2133mhz | SLI TitanXP w/ EK Waterblocks | 2x Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB | Seasonic 1000w Titanium | Windows 10 Pro 64bit | TM Warthog HOTAS w/40cm Extension | MFG Crosswind Rudders | Obutto R3volution | HP Reverb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwingKid Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 I'm scared to land any airplane! ...without ground effect. ;) -SK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 Just a moment... What about 20-30 operations in the cockpit (and 20 minutes to wait in the worst case) before takeoff? ;) If you model a hot chick bringing drinks, it'll be okay ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonnieRock Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 :icon_wink If you model a hot chick bringing drinks, it'll be okay ;) My girlfriend does as she supports my fight simming hobby(obsession) I taught her how to take off and land on the carrier and she thinks she is hot $hit now with a big grin on her face Olgerd, my my you are up early friday morning Rack Rig: Rosewill RSV-L4000 | Koolance ERM-3K3UC | Xeon E5-1680 v2 @ 4.9ghz w/EK Monoblock | Asus Rampage IV Black Edition | 64GB 2133mhz | SLI TitanXP w/ EK Waterblocks | 2x Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB | Seasonic 1000w Titanium | Windows 10 Pro 64bit | TM Warthog HOTAS w/40cm Extension | MFG Crosswind Rudders | Obutto R3volution | HP Reverb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Olgerd Posted November 25, 2005 ED Team Share Posted November 25, 2005 If you model a hot chick bringing drinks, it'll be okay ;) Lol. We have not yet characters animation in LockOn. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] К чему стадам дары свободы? Их должно резать или стричь. Наследство их из рода в роды Ярмо с гремушками да бич. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Olgerd Posted November 25, 2005 ED Team Share Posted November 25, 2005 I'm scared to land any airplane! ...without ground effect. ;) -SK BTW. It is present in SFM. It is practically unnoticeable though. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] К чему стадам дары свободы? Их должно резать или стричь. Наследство их из рода в роды Ярмо с гремушками да бич. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBS17 Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 Just a moment... What about 20-30 operations in the cockpit (and 20 minutes to wait in the worst case) before takeoff? ;) Now thats more like it, can we speed up the clock for INS alignment?:D [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Olgerd Posted November 25, 2005 ED Team Share Posted November 25, 2005 Now thats more like it, can we speed up the clock for INS alignment?:D Sure. Or just select fast (default on nav system power up) alignment. It takes only 3 minutes. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] К чему стадам дары свободы? Их должно резать или стричь. Наследство их из рода в роды Ярмо с гремушками да бич. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny Posted November 25, 2005 Author Share Posted November 25, 2005 Just a moment... What about 20-30 operations in the cockpit (and 20 minutes to wait in the worst case) before takeoff? ;) I can hardly wait hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellonet Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 The Su-25T even floats on water... for a while.. I crashed (slowly) into the water the plane went under for a second and was killed, and then it came up to the surface and bobbed around a few seconds and then it sank.... Really cool! i7-2600k@4GHz, 8GB, R9 280X 3GB, SSD, HOTAS WH, Pro Flight Combat Pedals, TIR5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 Just a moment... What about 20-30 operations in the cockpit (and 20 minutes to wait in the worst case) before takeoff? ;) Are you trying to scare us with something we have been asking for for some time...?;) Well, you see that doesn´t make us shiver... - only drool.:D And we have a new community rumour: "ED´s Oleg promised AFM and 30-step startup sequence for all flyables!" Yeeeeeehaaah! "For aviators like us, the sky is not the limit - it's our home!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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