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Old 04-15-2018, 04:57 PM   #991
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Please ED, for the sake of your customers, only accept patches if they are accompanied by patch notes. It's annoying (as well as being very unprofessional) that changes are being released without patch notes and what's more it is easily within ED's control to resolve this rediculous situation. This is not some freeware mobile app but an expensive product and lacking patch notes for any code distributed by ED is totally inappropriate.
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Old 04-16-2018, 01:50 PM   #992
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Please ED, for the sake of your customers, only accept patches if they are accompanied by patch notes. It's annoying (as well as being very unprofessional) that changes are being released without patch notes and what's more it is easily within ED's control to resolve this rediculous situation. This is not some freeware mobile app but an expensive product and lacking patch notes for any code distributed by ED is totally inappropriate.
You forgot to mention that this is your opinion and that you do not represent the community as a whole
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Old 04-16-2018, 02:18 PM   #993
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You forgot to mention that this is your opinion and that you do not represent the community as a whole
I think he is quite right.

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You forgot to mention that this is your opinion and that you do not represent the community as a whole
It makes you wonder though, who's testing those updates if ED does not even know what's inside them?
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It makes you wonder though, who's testing those updates if ED does not even know what's inside them?
Please don't make assumptions that you know what goes on w/ a Developers Internal Operations or Testers.

ED Knows what's changes are committed, as do testers, both ED's and the 3rd Party's own Independent Testers.
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Old 04-16-2018, 04:45 PM   #996
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I think he is quite right.

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What is your point? That the two of you combined do represent the communties wishes? My point is, people think their own problems they have with the game is the most important one and should be fixed immediatly. To make a point about the topic, if there is no changelog then you can expect there to be nothing more but very minor (unnoticeable) changes. Major changes are sure to get attention either in a changelog or otherwise on the forums.
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Old 04-16-2018, 09:41 PM   #997
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You forgot to mention that this is your opinion and that you do not represent the community as a whole
No, I did not forget. There is nothing in my profile, signature, or posts to suggest that I represent ED, one of their partners, any third party, or have been elected as some sort of community/customer spokesperson. Therefore it may reasonably be assumed that I post as an individual. Since we are not the Borg, I must be speaking my own mind and only for myself.
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ED Knows what's changes are committed, as do testers, both ED's and the 3rd Party's own Independent Testers.
So if you know what changes are committed, why most of the time those changelogs are not published with the update?
All in all, that would also make our life as customers and early adopters easier.
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So if you know what changes are committed, why most of the time those changelogs are not published with the update?
All in all, that would also make our life as customers and early adopters easier.
From memory from an old video - it was stated the whole team work on updates and fixes with one doing the list, meaning a lot it missed off.

I understand the frustration
BUT im sure you can see a list of 'what's been updated ' on your machine after you update

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So if you know what changes are committed, why most of the time those changelogs are not published with the update?
All in all, that would also make our life as customers and early adopters easier.
There are two different types of changelogs. There is the internal changelog/tasklog that contains everything that has beeing worked on and then there is the public changelog that only contains stuff that is relevant and intended for the customers. Which items will get on the public patchlog and which items don't has to be decided by the dev team. ED can do that for their own stuff, but they can't make this decision for the 3rd parties, so they have to provide their own public changelog. Some 3rd parties provide them to ED, so ED can include it in the official update patch notes news. Some 3rd parties make their own patch note threads in thir subforums and some don't do anything like that.
This is also a bit difficult for 3rd party devs as they send their changes to ED on a regular basis, but they don't necessarily know when ED is releasing a new update. That means that a 3rd party dev might commit several changes to ED untill ED releases them as part of a new DCS update and the 3rd party dev then doesn't know which of his changes are included in the new DCS update.

That's at least what I gathered from following this issue over several years.
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