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Old 04-16-2018, 11:34 AM   #71
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Blimey I go away for a weekend and all sort of posts

Hawk re-write has been going on in the background since 2017, the guys working on it put it to one side to try and work on the taxi issue as this became more and more problematic I diverted more resource into it until it was resolved. Now those guys are back on the Hawk revamp, I am not going to get into the "when" game with this, it's done when it's done to use an old adage.

We have actually been utilizing experience gathered during the development of the P-40 to put back into Hawk and build Hawk 2.0 into a much more rounded product. Remember that aside from Chris none of the original Hawk team work for us any more, so any lessons learnt from the development of that product are pretty much redundant, not that I would go down the same route as the original team anyway but that is besides the point.

I have given an update on the P-40 in my original post and when we are ready to share more we will.

More regular updates and previews will follow when the module is with ED and in the build up to release. The other ways to see development updates on P-40 is on the occasional stream I may do or to see the module at a public demo we may happen to attend.

I can't remember who mentioned it in the thread but to confirm we do have separate teams working on Hawk and our other projects. There was an amount of cross over with some of the bugs with Hawk but in general they are pretty separate. While there are over 20 people working on various projects around the family we are all work on DCS in addition to our day jobs.

Lastly please do remember that small fixes and updates are going out with Hawk pretty much every patch but our man hours are not limitless and some bugs will be resolves with the re-code, of course if something game breaking like the wind bug happens we will attend to it as fast as we can. This next patch there are a number of fixes for some electrical logic, fuel system, Flight model updates as well as PBR texture improvements.

We maintain that we are committed to carrying on development of P-40F and Hawk as well as other projects in the background, sadly these things take time.

More news soon.

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Old 04-16-2018, 11:37 AM   #72
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Really excited about the P-40 and also the historical campaign...but...what kind of campaign will it be? what will it fly against? Over which map?
Most likely the Cauc map because of availability for everyone, but maybe Normandy. The campaign is in the planning and adaptation stages at the moment.

It will mainly be a ground strike mission.

We are not working on any maps for DCS and have no plans to return to that development route. AI units have not been ruled out, however with the assets pack there is already an excellent source for period units in DCS.

We are cautious about making these things a prerequisite for the campaign, although the campaign itself will be free with the P-40 module.

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Old 04-17-2018, 03:32 PM   #73
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honestly the only thing i want is the eurofighter.......
but at least it's a good point we'll have an update for the hawk
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Old 04-19-2018, 02:29 AM   #74
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Eternally waiting for the P-40F, that was "two weeks" away from release when I bought it. Also waiting quite a bit for the Hawk to be fixed for so long that I am now waiting for the Hawk 2.0. I don't want or need status updates, just a DCS World 2.5xx update that includes one or both of these aircraft in a condition that is comparable to most of the other DCS modules. Dig in and get -er done. If the P-40 is ever finished and works well I will consider buying FSW version.
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Old 04-19-2018, 03:54 PM   #75
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Hi,

Did the use of smoke pods get fixed for the Hawk?

Good to see you are still working on this, and you are starting to talk optimistically about it's re-release.
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Old 04-19-2018, 06:36 PM   #76
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Thanks for the updated updates Pman
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Old 04-22-2018, 04:56 PM   #77
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I was wondering when the livestream/video was coming? Also, I remember seeing an older video and in it was an F4F. My apologies for asking, but I just started following VEAO with this post and was wondering if it was still in the making too?

~Rob

Edit* - Would it also be possible to see the P-40F with a Med paint job?

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Old 04-23-2018, 01:33 AM   #78
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Blimey I go away for a weekend and all sort of posts
I am not going to get into the "when" game with this, it's done when it's done to use an old adage.
PMAN - I don't think making condescending statements like those above helps you or your team in the slightest. What I read here personally is - "hey, stop bitching, pull your head in, wait around until we decide we get off our asses and COMMIT to anything ... which we wont, and when it's ready, which may be never, ..... ".

Any reasonably organised development team, no matter how small, should at least have some notion of a public schedule they work towards especially considering that by charging for a product, which I have bought and many others, there is a level of obligation towards their expectations.

Again I say, as before, I am and have been a very vocal supporter of the HAWK. I fly it on most multiplayer servers and I do defend the mostly negative comments I get whilst doing so. However you are not really helping your own cause by statements like the above to those who have paid for it or those considering buying it.

So my ask is - can you at least communicate a timeline you are working towards having Hawk 2.0 and what exactly Hawk 2.0 will offer in terms of systems, multi-crew etc?
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Old 04-23-2018, 08:26 AM   #79
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This XXI century change people's sensitivity too much. Seems that we need to take soft words while we are hit hard.
To understand better better what I am trying to tell you: "it's done when it's done" is equal with "we don't know yet how long it will take". While the first expression is hitting hard verbally, the second one is letting more room of compassion - neither however will change the final result.

"Suing" everything is another disease which spread exponential in the last century and is doing more harm than good.

Having these in minds is clear VEAO don't know how to communicate so that our "up to date" sensitive souls to not be hurt. C'mon people... we might be lost 40 bucks... is that a tragedy? Do you really think VEAO are now on a sunset beach ? So.. chill out people... let them do whatever they think they have to do and not take their blunt words personally.
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Old 04-23-2018, 08:31 AM   #80
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I was wondering when the livestream/video was coming? Also, I remember seeing an older video and in it was an F4F. My apologies for asking, but I just started following VEAO with this post and was wondering if it was still in the making too?

~Rob

Edit* - Would it also be possible to see the P-40F with a Med paint job?
My day job has been taking up more time than I'd like at the moment, I work in finance and it is very close to our years end so time is short for the next couple of weeks.

It will very likely be at a weekend sometime in the first couple of weeks of May. I will try and post a few days ahead to give everyone time to tune in. It will be on twitch though - which reminds me to setup OBS again hehe.

Re Med skin, what do you have in mind?

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