Dora left/right console and maybe more

Hi all,

It is time to present my Dora project. I am collecting data, pictures and designing components from start of this year (so before DCS DORA release). Layout is based mostly on cockpit pictures of W.Nr. 601088, which is the only original, complete D-9, so they are some minor differences compared to DCS.

My first target is to get full functional left and right console of Dora cockpit. Step 2 will be control stick, rudder pedals, pilot seat, and hopefully step 3 both parts of Instruments panel. I let the wood for carpenters and beavers :lol: so my materials are steel, aluminium and polycarbonate.

On attached pictures you can see left console polycarbonate body, laser cut cover steel plate, and aluminium CNC machined instruments. Parts are only assembled for test fit.

I have just ordered some electronic parts (buttons, switches), MJOY 16 is ready and waiting for upgrade to MMJOY.

My big thanks to Kodoss, Fox One and Sokol 1 for their help…

Very interesting project.

That is excellent - I see that the undercarriage indicator light unit is different from the DCS virtual cockpit. Will you share your reference material ?

How will you implement the elevator trim ? I am going to use a geared motor which drives a potentiometer as well as the indicator. But my PC can't run DCS, my FW-190 is for IL-2.

For now I am still only building the KG13 grip :)

That is excellent - I see that the undercarriage indicator light unit is different from the DCS virtual cockpit. Will you share your reference material ?

 

How will you implement the elevator trim ? I am going to use a geared motor which drives a potentiometer as well as the indicator. But my PC can't run DCS, my FW-190 is for IL-2.

 

For now I am still only building the KG13 grip :)

Thanks. We have discussed indicator in this thread http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=128829 it looks both options are right. For start I will let indicator unconnected later on I am planning add servo and control it directly from DCS (via card, export.lua, hope it will be possible) . One remark to your solution, in reality trim control was momentary switch (ON)-OFF-(ON) see attachment, so the leveller is always in the middle what you cannot achieve with potentiometer (I was also thinking about similar solution at start). I will use this switch for this purpose https://www.elfa.se/elfa3~eu_en/elfa/init.do?item=35-238-75&toc=0&q=208045.

I am going to use the ON\OFF\ON switch, but to control the potentiometer and indicator. Maybe I might use a servo instead - it will be easier but I already have a geared motor.

I will fly a lot of other aircraft using the cockpit so it will be useful to have a mechanical indication of trim position - there is a working trim indicator in the IL2 FW190 virtual cockpit, but not in a lot of the other planes.

I am going to build a replica of the FL32345 switch.

Ok sorry small misunderstood, this was not clear from your previous post...

New parts. PCB for gear indicator with four 5V diodes and potentiometer it will be connected to the switch for gear (no controled by DCS, so little bit simplified). On another photo is switch for gear and flaps, it was little bit problem to bough it, this ones are little bit rare in our country. Functionality is same like on real Dora (only one can be pressed) and each is switching two circuits (so MMJOY and diodes).

On last pictures is throttle leveller with simplified shape:music_whistling:. I don't know how was on real Dora made this blocking in zero position (maybe banding of leveller???) but I use leveller divided to two part and connected via screws and two springs It is assembled only for test fit, I must use shorter screws and springs.

I think that your hinged lever is very probably correct. I have seen similar designs in many aircraft maintenance manuals of all nationalities and types.

But I don't have any specific information on the FW190 :(

Have you a plan to make the throttle grip rotate for the gunsight ranging ?

Yes rotating of throttle grip will be functionally ( linear hall sensor). I am just finishing drawings of this part....

I am not sure if it is at the Museum of the Slovak National Uprising in Banska Bystrica or if it is at The Museum Branch of MMH Piešťany. But I know there is a FW 109 in pristine shape in Slovakia Witch would be a great reffrence for you.

The wife and I traveled all across the Czech republic and Slovakia. Sorry I just can't remember where it was but it was on display with a P-51 in good shape but I may be wrong we were living there from 97 to 2007

So after longer time here is some project progress. Design work on this is really time consuming. Currently I have finished design of both consoles. Most parts for left console are also produced, for right console I am missing the parts what need to be laser cut (they are already at supplier). This week I have also received last parts for throttle lever. I have also little bit improve the construction of throttle lever (add strengthening to avoid banding of construction and deleted the spring mechanism).

I have also durring this project litlle bit improved my skills and rest of the design work I will do in 3D. Also the painting masks for label are prepared, my plan is to airbrush all the labels on both consoles. Currently I am working on design of the grip base. I want to also kindly ask for help. Have someone original blue print for FW190D instrument panels? This is last drawing what I am missing. Please contact me via PM. Thank you.

Hi draken,

great job! I'm looking forward to see more of your pit. :thumbup:

While looking at the stencil sheet I noticed two spelling issues:

- Ausfahren des Fahrwerks

- Betätigung nur wenn Maschine "FREI"

Cheers,

Stefan

Hi draken,

 

great job! I'm looking forward to see more of your pit. :thumbup:

 

While looking at the stencil sheet I noticed two spelling issues:

 

- Ausfahren des Fahrwerks

- Betätigung nur wenn Maschine "FREI"

 

Cheers,

Stefan

Thank you for your spelling corrections:thumbup:. My German language is on low level so for me is hard to recognise this kind of issues… I will rework it…

Guys I want to kindly ask for help. Currently I am working on drawing of bottom instrument panel. My work is based on Ta 152 factory drawing of instrument panel (unfortunately without dimensions), photos, numerous drawings from books and some builds of others guys. I am almost done but there are some unknown dimensions for me (for example side edge radius). I know there are some blueprints available on the net, but to be honest I need maybe 3 drawings and I don’t want to pay 60€ for it (also I am not sure if they are included in those blueprints). This build isn’t really cheap and I can use 60€ on something else in my pit.....

So please have someone in his possession some useful sources for FW 190 instrument panels - factory blue prints or anything else (and is willing to share it with me)???? :worthy:

Thank you all….

Hi all. Update after long time. I have found almost all necessary dimensions and drawings and now I am playing with aluminium, bosh profiles and laser cuter :music_whistling:.

This is so cool! Have subscribed, keep up the good work!

Excellent work. Inspirational!

Hey draken152, where did you get these from and what are they called? I'm assuming they're single select switches?

Hi Toxaq,

The name of the switches is Isostat/Izostat (you can found them in both written form). Only one can be switched on but you can found also different setups (momentary...). I don’t know if they are still produced they were really common during 80s -90s in the middle Europe communism countries (Czech, Poland, Slovakia). I have bought it in Czech http://racvonka.cz (only in Czech language). I know there are some similar switches produced in Britain and also in China.

Hey draken152, where did you get these from and what are they called? I'm assuming they're single select switches?

These used to be everywhere in surplus stores, but now they are far less common. I think they were often referred to as "push-on, push-off" switches. They may also be called "latching push button switches".

Here's a link to a similar switch http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/pb-229/dpdt-push-on/push-off-switch/1.html

Awesome, thanks guys. I'd stripped some radios in the 90s which had them and so when I was thinking about building the radio box for the P-51 they were a logical choice but I couldn't find them.

Some progress, coating of fuselage is on place. It is made from 0.75 polycarbonate and it is holding on approximately 400 screws :bomb:(only few are assembled currently).

This looks amazing!!!