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Old 06-05-2016, 03:27 PM   #1
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Hey Pilots!

Do you think it is easier to dogfight in a F86 Sabre than in a P51?
For my question imagine a fight vs the typical enemy (Sabre vs MiG15 - P51 vs Bf109)

I asked myself this question because I thought it must be easier because the F86 has more power and agility, so to say it is easier to control...

At this time I train vs AI and have the feeling it is harder in the P51 - I think about getting the Sabre for jet-dogfighting.

Thank you for your opinion
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Old 06-05-2016, 04:06 PM   #2
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P-51 vs Bf-109 and F-86 vs MiG-15 are probably 2 thoughest AI match ups in DCS . But with some practice it gets fun.
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Old 06-05-2016, 06:26 PM   #3
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The F-86 is easier to fly and has a better gun sight. I would say overall it's easier than the P-51. However as WinterH said, the MiG-15 AI is difficult. If you are in a F-86 vs MiG-15 fight, you can still have your hands full.
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I have both F-86 and P51D and the F-86 is easier to dogfight with as the sight uncaged with radar is a big help. The other thing is the torque of the P51D prop and the engine management required makes the P51D a handful to dogfight with. A good aircraft to practice against is the SU25 when flying the F-86 the AI can be a handful with the Mig15.
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I have to go with the F-86 as well as others for the same reasons. But still enjoy and do well (with a lot of practice) with the P-51.
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Speed and over G in the sabre is a big hurdle.
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Old 06-06-2016, 04:49 AM   #7
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That where my thoughts, especially about the torque of the mustangs prop in a dogfight. I didnt know that the AI in the MiG is a hard one, very interesting!

As I purchase the Sabre anyway (collect them all ) I think I will do more dogfighting training in it, maybe I can take some experience someday to the P51.

I also will fly it online, I never tried it because of the expected short life time... but maybe I can spot a MiG pilot who is the same level like me
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Speed and over G in the sabre is a big hurdle.
You need to G-warm up prior to the dogfight.
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does the Albatros L39 ZA has a chance in a dogfight, against F86 / MiG 15??
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No, unless it sneaks from behind and fires a missile. But it's much slower so will have trouble even catching up.
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