Rhinozherous Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Hey Pilots! Do you think it is easier to dogfight in a F86 Sabre than in a P51? For my question imagine a fight vs the typical enemy (Sabre vs MiG15 - P51 vs Bf109) I asked myself this question because I thought it must be easier because the F86 has more power and agility, so to say it is easier to control... At this time I train vs AI and have the feeling it is harder in the P51 - I think about getting the Sabre for jet-dogfighting. Thank you for your opinion :idea: i7-14700KF 5.6GHz Water Cooled /// ZOTAC RTX 4070 TI Super 16GB /// 32GB RAM DDR5 /// Win11 /// SSDs only DCS - XP12 - MSFS2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterH Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 P-51 vs Bf-109 and F-86 vs MiG-15 are probably 2 thoughest AI match ups in DCS :). But with some practice it gets fun. Wishlist: F-4E Block 53 +, MiG-27K, Su-17M3 or M4, AH-1F or W circa 80s or early 90s, J35 Draken, Kfir C7, Mirage III/V DCS-Dismounts Script Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exorcet Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 The F-86 is easier to fly and has a better gun sight. I would say overall it's easier than the P-51. However as WinterH said, the MiG-15 AI is difficult. If you are in a F-86 vs MiG-15 fight, you can still have your hands full. Awaiting: DCS F-15C Win 10 i5-9600KF 4.6 GHz 64 GB RAM RTX2080Ti 11GB -- Win 7 64 i5-6600K 3.6 GHz 32 GB RAM GTX970 4GB -- A-10C, F-5E, Su-27, F-15C, F-14B, F-16C missions in User Files Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBS17 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 I have both F-86 and P51D and the F-86 is easier to dogfight with as the sight uncaged with radar is a big help. The other thing is the torque of the P51D prop and the engine management required makes the P51D a handful to dogfight with. A good aircraft to practice against is the SU25 when flying the F-86 the AI can be a handful with the Mig15. [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbud Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 I have to go with the F-86 as well as others for the same reasons. But still enjoy and do well (with a lot of practice) with the P-51. BadBud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIKBELL Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Speed and over G in the sabre is a big hurdle. There are 2 categories of fighter pilots: those who have performed, and those who someday will perform, a magnificent defensive break turn toward a bug on the canopy. Robert Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhinozherous Posted June 6, 2016 Author Share Posted June 6, 2016 That where my thoughts, especially about the torque of the mustangs prop in a dogfight. I didnt know that the AI in the MiG is a hard one, very interesting! As I purchase the Sabre anyway (collect them all :thumbup: ) I think I will do more dogfighting training in it, maybe I can take some experience someday to the P51. I also will fly it online, I never tried it because of the expected short life time... but maybe I can spot a MiG pilot who is the same level like me :D i7-14700KF 5.6GHz Water Cooled /// ZOTAC RTX 4070 TI Super 16GB /// 32GB RAM DDR5 /// Win11 /// SSDs only DCS - XP12 - MSFS2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBS17 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Speed and over G in the sabre is a big hurdle. You need to G-warm up prior to the dogfight.:smilewink: [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenux Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 does the Albatros L39 ZA has a chance in a dogfight, against F86 / MiG 15?? I9 12900k@ 5 GHz | 32 GB DDR4 | Asus ROG Strix Z690-A Gaming Wifi d4| RTX 3090 | 6 TB SSD + 8 TB HDD | 4K Samsung Q90R 55" | VKB MK III PRO L | Virpil Throttle MONGOOST-50 | MFG Crosswind | TrackIR5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
some1 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 No, unless it sneaks from behind and fires a missile. But it's much slower so will have trouble even catching up. Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil T-50CM, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts