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Old 06-28-2017, 08:32 PM   #31
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That 1800X came out lower than what other reviewers are getting in the benchmarks, my 1700X scores 159 on cinebench single thread with 3850Mhz clock for example, I have no idea why a 1800x capable of 4.1 Ghz XFR was as low as 155.
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Old 06-28-2017, 09:05 PM   #32
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I don't know, but I assume the tests were made with plain not OC'ed CPU.

Another one compares the full lineup of ryzen 5/7 vs the 7820x:
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Old 06-29-2017, 07:20 AM   #33
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For that little extra speed I wouldnt pay 180€ more. its roughly 650,- vs. 470,-€

180,-€ is either a nice motherboard or some nice memory sticks for free.

Even if they were identical in price and performance I would buy Team Green, just to wave at Intel and thank you for years of rippin'meOFF

edit* and the Ryzens runs WAY cooler....
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Old 06-29-2017, 08:11 AM   #34
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OK, here it come from "der 8auer" himself, one of the Pro-Overclockers, a true DEVASTATING statement for X299.

Read yourself before you go and buy one of those boards & CPUs:


http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/der...rclocking.html
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Old 06-29-2017, 10:43 AM   #35
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This makes for some very sober viewing. It appears that overclocking on the X299 chipset requires some pretty serious cooling if not a custom water loop coupled with good case airflow. This video I viewed a few days ago concludes similar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfLaknTneqw
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This makes for some very sober viewing. It appears that overclocking on the X299 chipset requires some pretty serious cooling if not a custom water loop coupled with good case airflow. This video I viewed a few days ago concludes similar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfLaknTneqw

This is a very kind conclusion.

No "air flow in the case" cools your motherboard's rear side, and even IF, the problem remains that the the current and ampere is too much for those parts involved. Too few for too high load.

I, by nature and by the function I have in business, are used AND forced to call the child by it's name. I call this X299 with a single 8-Pin CPU power plug a failure by design and must be avoided.

+100°C and more on the VRM's and MosFets is surely a game breaker. Not even the best japanese parts will take this for very long if you overclock.

Even if there were TWO 8-Pin plugs it wont look that much better. The CPU power draw is abnormal and the stress on the VRM and MosFet parts will likely not get better just because it is fed by 2 cables. Unless they add more VRMs and MosFets to distribute the load it is false fixing or "Augenwischerei" as we say in german.

1kw+ PSU will have a good reason to exist for those boards and CPU`s.


It needs a WS class motherboard, they usually have 2 8-Pins ( my X99 has ), a HIGH END cooling solution for the CPU and some brave heart to go for it.

This round, Intel screwed up badly imho.

I am pretty confident those boards will soon get a revision "2" layout. Not the first time things had to be changed to fix serious iussues that keep people back buying.

Fourhundredandsixtyfour Watts...write that on your monitor and think twice. I am unaware of any CPU water block that can take that much heat away, not with the TIM Intel uses.
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Some top of the line X299 mobo already have 2x8pin:
-Gigabyte AORUS 7 & 9
-ASUS ROG Rampage VI Apex
-EVGA X299 DARK
New MSI and Asrock mobo will follow in Q4/17.

Yes, the room for OC is little(maybe with delidding you can bypass that limit), but...you have plenty of lanes available, fastest RAM support on the market... so we should ask: Is overclock really needed?
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