Mistral bugs and feedback

Description: Mistral goes into space after booster cut off.

DCS Version: DCS 1.5.4.55952.150 Update 4

Map:Caucus

SP/MP: Both

Reproducible: Yes

Step to Reproduce: Shooting at a high speed out bound aircraft as soon as missile is about 1.58NM missile goes into space. video

Track Available: NA

Controllers: X65F

OS: Window 10

RAM: 16GB

GPU: Titan X SLI

Mods: None

Any Additional Information: Oh hell yes

1.Missile has no front or side aspect seeking Even Vs full burner aircraft, The missile is all-aspect two-color (2-4 and 3-5 µm) cooled IR-seeker.

2.Detection range is is very low "Under 1nm", Warhead does little damage "in comparison with similar missiles like the stinger "same size warhead". it seems to detonate far behind the target

3. Missile has a very narrow Feild of view less than +/- 38 degrees".

4. Maximuim possible range is 8Km best is 6km for aircraft and 4Km for Helo.

5. Self destruct fuse is 12.5sec to 14 sec "different sources"

Should be all aspect as well as far as I can tell? Would be weird if it wasn't for such a modern missile.

Same issues here. Can confirm.

It's been fixed and will be part of a next update

Great news. Hope its all aspect now haha.

Thank you for your hard work and allowing us to fly with you and spiderpig, and I would also say thank you to IASGATG

The pleasure was for us

Sure a huge thank to IASGATG who helped us to fix the Mistral missile

You and him are great guys.

Thanks a lot.

Great news. Hope its all aspect now haha.

 

Thank you for your hard work and allowing us to fly withj you and spiderpig, and I would also say thank you to IASGATG

So tripled the amount of flying things on that mission you flew. Put on unlimited weapons. Flew with the new Mistral fix.....I was one hell of a killing machine. I was able to kill things so much easier and from all aspects. I think I had too much fun.

Great news. Hope its all aspect now haha.

 

Thank you for your hard work and allowing us to fly with you and spiderpig, and I would also say thank you to IASGATG

Not at all "all aspect"

So tripled the amount of flying things on that mission you flew. Put on unlimited weapons. Flew with the new Mistral fix.....I was one hell of a killing machine. I was able to kill things so much easier and from all aspects. I think I had too much fun.

Was anticipating this to be fixed now, but as far as I can see the Mistral is still not all aspect.

Have to get on planes and choppers six to get a tone.

I agree that with all aspect the Gazelle with Mistral will be a real killer.

So please look into this.:pilotfly:

Missing feedback...

The Mistral ATAM, wich is the version carried on the Gazelle helicopter, is a very advanced all-aspect missile, that has no problem in getting a lock on any helicopter from any aspect, at a minimum of 3+ km. ( More of course if it is directed at a single gas exhaust - usually at the rear end of a helicopter, or under or above - or , rear-aspect of a fighter jet.)

I love to fly the Gazelle. But the main reason I bought it over the generally more capable KA-50, was that it had the unique capability, over other choppers in DCS so far, to function as a escort helicopter for other helicopters.

I paid my money because Polychop said it would be fitted with Mistral missiles. Every version of the Mistral has allways been all-aspect.

The question was raised again october 28th 2016 by “BigJoe”, in the “Gazelle Change Log”. The answer on november 7th 2016 made me no wiser. If I understood it right, it refers to an update september 9th 2016, were it says “corrected Mistral Missile performances”. But the first post in this tread, by “sirscorpion”, is from august 19th 2016. Besides the problem of “missile going to space…” that seems to have been fixed, all other problems remains ( #1 & #2 ), which “sirscorpion” lists under “any additional information”.

And it’s confusing, because as “BigJoe” points out in this tread, the problem was supposedly solved august 20th 2016.

I have full respect for Polychop taking it’s time to finnish things. All I’we seen from Polychop has been quality work. I bought the module fully aware it was in a beta stage. However, my concern is that I can’t find any clear answer that Polychop intend to make the Mistral all-aspect.

It is all aspect but you need to be way too close. I was able to lock on to a helicopter from every side but only at a range of about 1km

+1 the biggest issue is range. No need for Mistrals as one would yield better results with guns or rockets atm. Last time I tried the mistrals I nearly collided with the enemy helicopter while trying to get a lock in.

On a visual note, It should have a big ass smoke plume. Think R60 missiles and you catch my drift. Important also for gameplay as other heli pilots should have a chance

to spot the incoming missile.

First it leaves the tube like this:

After it ignites:

No news on this? Just wanted to clarify that the pictures above is from a real Mistral system.

There is also a video launching from helicopter.

Probably only a couple of lines to tweak the Mistral code to:

More smoke.

Longer range.

More sensitive all aspect seeker.

It would really make a difference. More realistic and a lot more fun to use.

Thanks

Not sure if its degraded even more on 2.1.1.10527, after a few comparative tests it appears the seeker performance is quite close to the GAR-8. Not exactly what I'd expect with a ~30 year technology gap.

Hi Gents

The Mistral missile improvement is part of our TODO list. Sure we'll let you know when it's done.

Thanks.