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Old 01-16-2018, 06:54 AM   #1
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Question Is Our Harrier Navy or Marine?

I noticed that the front cover of the pocket guide states that our Harrier is the Navy model, is that accurate? I had thought that this sim was a Marine a/c. All of the liveries look like they're for Marine squadrons, but I know those aren't necessarily accurate or exhaustive. If someone could please confirm whether this is a Navy or Marine airframe I'd be grateful.

Apologies if this has been dealt with elsewhere, I did search but found nothing relevant.
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Old 01-16-2018, 06:55 AM   #2
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I noticed that the front cover of the pocket guide states that our Harrier is the Navy model, is that accurate? I had thought that this sim was a Marine a/c. All of the liveries look like they're for Marine squadrons, but I know those aren't necessarily accurate or exhaustive. If someone could please confirm whether this is a Navy or Marine airframe I'd be grateful.

Apologies if this has been dealt with elsewhere, I did search but found nothing relevant.
There is no navy Harrier, at least not in the US Navy. So yes, it is a US Marine Harrier.
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There is no navy Harrier, at least not in the US Navy. So yes, it is a US Marine Harrier.
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A little fun fact. In Marine Aviation everything goes thru the Navy. Tools, parts changes in the aircraft manuals. If I remember it was called Navair depot that was stamped on all the tools. If they didn't have there stamp on it you could not use it. Hose clamp under $10 bucks at the hardware store after the Navair depot put there name on it $75bucks. They have to approve everything before we get to use it. That's why it says the Navy everywhere.
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Which isn't so surprising, since the USMC has been a component of the US Navy for nearly 184 years.
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Which isn't so surprising, since the USMC has been a component of the US Navy for nearly 184 years.
Actually USMC is not part of USN, they are both separate branches under the Department of the Navy.
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A little fun fact. In Marine Aviation everything goes thru the Navy. Tools, parts changes in the aircraft manuals. If I remember it was called Navair depot that was stamped on all the tools. If they didn't have there stamp on it you could not use it. Hose clamp under $10 bucks at the hardware store after the Navair depot put there name on it $75bucks. They have to approve everything before we get to use it. That's why it says the Navy everywhere.
Ah ok, that is informative, thanks. So all Marines Airframes would likely be designated as Navy builds? Do all Marines assets go through this approval process, or is it specific to certain types of items?
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Ah ok, that is informative, thanks. So all Marines Airframes would likely be designated as Navy builds? Do all Marines assets go through this approval process, or is it specific to certain types of items?
That I don't know how much and what went thru the Navair dept. I was just recalling why we had NAVAIR stamped on on our tools and some of the publications.
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That I don't know how much and what went thru the Navair dept. I was just recalling why we had NAVAIR stamped on on our tools and some of the publications.
Ah fair enough. It's great hearing these details, for a civvie like me it's great to get this background
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Every Marine is a rifleman. That saying is true. Even though some of them fly jets/helicopters, drive tanks/trucks and operate artillery pieces they are all riflemen first. They do not possess their own acquisitions/support infrastructure and instead use the Navy for that which is why NAVAIR is seen on everything aviation related. Their paychecks come from the Department of the Navy. They do not even have their own medical personnel instead relying on the Navy for their Hospital Corpsman. One of the interservice jabs that routinely gets used is that MARINE is an acronym- My Ass Rides In Navy Equipment.
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