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Old 06-19-2019, 11:29 PM   #11
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I am pretty sure we will get stuck with an S or F.

That said I'm pretty much not going to buy it if it is not a modern attack chopper.

Good for the Vietnam fans but I'll hold out for an AH-64A or above.
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Old 06-20-2019, 12:25 AM   #12
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I am pretty sure we will get stuck with an S or F.

That said I'm pretty much not going to buy it if it is not a modern attack chopper.

Good for the Vietnam fans but I'll hold out for an AH-64A or above.
AH1S and Ah1F are both post vietnam


Especially if its AH1S modernized stage 3 ( or what became re-designated as AH1F 1988+) is basically a very late cold war vehicle that didnt see its first combat use until 91 gulf war, which is also Ah1W's combat debut, but isnt as capable as AH1W or AH64A. Namely lack of AGM114 among other things


Even then within the Ah1F 1988+ depending on time period also vary what additional features we can get. IE post cold war better RWR , more modern TOW's ( like TOW 2B for top down attack capability) or GPS Trimpack ( A simple GPS receiver), and the fact that some AH1F's were modded with CNITe intergrated for M65 optical system, giving FLIR , allowing all weather engagement capability.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:00 AM   #13
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I think W is a lot better. There are many more capabilities than S, such as Tow and Hellfire.
Iran also used its J-model in the war with Iraq, which is a long-standing record. They also installed the Maverick missile on it . Most importantly, Iran has used the missile in a real war




There is also a history of using it in the Desert storm and Afghanistan Wars and it has new experience in using a helicopter from a warship.

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Old 06-20-2019, 04:43 PM   #14
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So...S or W, what version we will have?
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Link to the Russian Forum

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=211545


I believe its the AH-1S
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Old 06-20-2019, 09:27 PM   #16
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Did RAZBAM stated they will do an attack helicopter or an AH-1 or is it just a request ?
And well I think if RAZBAM had to make a variant of the AH-1, they'll wait for ED to release their own (since ED already said they wanted to make a AH-1 a while ago) and make another variant, and I doubt that we will get both S and F as they are close to each other, so if ED for example make the S or F, RAZBAM might do the W as they are different enough.
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Old 06-20-2019, 09:37 PM   #17
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Did RAZBAM stated they will do an attack helicopter or an AH-1 or is it just a request ?
And well I think if RAZBAM had to make a variant of the AH-1, they'll wait for ED to release their own (since ED already said they wanted to make a AH-1 a while ago) and make another variant, and I doubt that we will get both S and F as they are close to each other, so if ED for example make the S or F, RAZBAM might do the W as they are different enough.
It started as a request. Belsimtek/ED are doing the S/F version as a companion to the Mi24V they are doing.

I also think Razbam already has something like 3 other modules in the works mig23/tucano/F15E so maaaybe after those. But honestly I'd rather they something like a full fidelity cuban mig29...
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Old 06-20-2019, 09:42 PM   #18
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AH1S and Ah1F are both post vietnam


Especially if its AH1S modernized stage 3 ( or what became re-designated as AH1F 1988+) is basically a very late cold war vehicle that didnt see its first combat use until 91 gulf war, which is also Ah1W's combat debut, but isnt as capable as AH1W or AH64A. Namely lack of AGM114 among other things


Even then within the Ah1F 1988+ depending on time period also vary what additional features we can get. IE post cold war better RWR , more modern TOW's ( like TOW 2B for top down attack capability) or GPS Trimpack ( A simple GPS receiver), and the fact that some AH1F's were modded with CNITe intergrated for M65 optical system, giving FLIR , allowing all weather engagement capability.
Yup, I'd be pretty happy with an F model. But yeah, apache would be even cooler. I also think people need to realign their expectations on modern attack helos. The KA-50 we have is like a 90's "trial" version, and realistically an F model cobra would be superior to it in some respects. I doubt we see anything much more modern than A model apache either.

Frankly I'd be much more happy if they fixed things like sniper tanks/APC's and how the AI deals with different types of threats, and low level radar guided sam issues as the currently exist and are modeled in game. But thats ED not Raz...
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Old 06-20-2019, 11:22 PM   #19
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Yup, I'd be pretty happy with an F model. But yeah, apache would be even cooler. I also think people need to realign their expectations on modern attack helos. The KA-50 we have is like a 90's "trial" version, and realistically an F model cobra would be superior to it in some respects. I doubt we see anything much more modern than A model apache either.

Frankly I'd be much more happy if they fixed things like sniper tanks/APC's and how the AI deals with different types of threats, and low level radar guided sam issues as the currently exist and are modeled in game. But thats ED not Raz...
Maybe reduced workload due to being multircrew. Otherwise i dont think so. Ka50 better in basically superior most regards. Newer helicopter design, more modern missiles, and pretty modern avionics for a mid 90s "trial" or early production aircraft,. Th Navigation suite in particular stands out. I think the only thing that would have stood out as being more advanced would have been the AH64D but that entered service a few years afterwords.


You also have to remember how many years ago original KA50 was released. What was not possible back in 2008 might be feasible today in 2019

IN all honesty the biggest change with more modern helos comparative to Ah64A or Ah1W with post production upgrades are the electronics related to pilot user interface. Glass cockpits ( multi function displays), and HOCAS ( Hands on Collective and Stick), essentially the Rotary equivalent of HOTAS. Granted there is more but these are the two biggest things.


WE have a F/A18 Hornet. Ah64D and Ah1Z would basically be rotary equivalents of the sort of avionics you have on late gen 4 fixed wing aircraft. I wouldnt discredit the possibility of an AH64D block 1 circa Late 90s-, or an early block 2 circa 2002-2003. Maybe even an "trial" version of Ah1Z could happen, because depite the newer date, its actually less advanced in certain areas, but more intuitive in others to the Ah64D ( no radar, no Radar based hellfires, no datalink, simpler map modes), like larger more colourfullMFD's and a more friendly pilot software interface.
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AH1S and Ah1F are both post vietnam


Especially if its AH1S modernized stage 3 ( or what became re-designated as AH1F 1988+) is basically a very late cold war vehicle that didnt see its first combat use until 91 gulf war, which is also Ah1W's combat debut, but isnt as capable as AH1W or AH64A. Namely lack of AGM114 among other things


Even then within the Ah1F 1988+ depending on time period also vary what additional features we can get. IE post cold war better RWR , more modern TOW's ( like TOW 2B for top down attack capability) or GPS Trimpack ( A simple GPS receiver), and the fact that some AH1F's were modded with CNITe intergrated for M65 optical system, giving FLIR , allowing all weather engagement capability.
I am well aware of the AH-1 platform and it's variants.



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WE have a F/A18 Hornet. Ah64D and Ah1Z would basically be rotary equivalents of the sort of avionics you have on late gen 4 fixed wing aircraft. I wouldnt discredit the possibility of an AH64D block 1 circa Late 90s-, or an early block 2 circa 2002-2003. Maybe even an "trial" version of Ah1Z could happen, because depite the newer date, its actually less advanced in certain areas, but more intuitive in others to the Ah64D ( no radar, no Radar based hellfires, no datalink, simpler map modes), like larger more colourfullMFD's and a more friendly pilot software interface.
No way we are getting an AH-1Z. The Navy would not allow it, I am pretty sure they wouldn't have allowed the W either but that may be outdated info now, either way I'll probably end up disappointed so I am not going to get my hopes up. AH-64D may be possible, I am pretty sure ED is doing one for TBS if their website isn't just BS. At the very least I expect to eventually get an AH-64A Blk.49A

Also I'd take a UH-1Y Venom over anything less than an AH-1W.
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