[NO BUG] Wheel friction dry runway not causing Hornet to roll over

See video. (Sadly no trackfile, but I imagine it's easy to reproduce this bug, this isn't the first time I'm seeing this. Hope someone can reproduce.)

https://streamable.com/kik16g

Obviously there’s differences but I went to compare this with the video of the Super Hornet doing a J turn at an air show. But I can’t find it anymore, internet is too big, must’ve been from 2006.

If you want to try and replicate it, they probably turned their anti lock breaks off, a lot of things become possible when your rear tires have no grip and are locked in place. I imagine such a thing might be possible up to a limit. There’s plenty of other modules with same behavior as long as ABS is off

See video ... this isn't the first time I'm seeing this.

TL;DR:

This isn't really bug but a limitation of DCS's single figure runway/ground friction co-efficient.

What you are seeing is a Hornet landing on a "Damp" runway and skidding.

Detail:

If you compare the Hornet's braking distance in game, with the RL landing charts you'll see the runway friction, etc. has been modelled for a "damp" runway.

AFAIK DCS uses a single RCR value and doesn't take weather, temperature, etc. into account.

The impression I have from landing various aircraft in DCS is that ED tend to model "damp" runway conditions (dry -> damp -> wet), while other dev's i.e. Razbam might choose "dry" braking distances.

IMHO there isn't "really" a wrong RCR value as braking distance/RCR has a wide spread moving from "dry" to "wet" but I tend to prefer ED's interpretation as it punishes landing too fast or when grossly overweight.

It does however mean that ED's aircraft need longer landing distances and skid more in dry conditions than they would IRL.

YMMV.

thing that video dose not show

was anti skid on or off

how fast was he going when he made the turn

was NWS in hi or lo

what is the cross wind if there is any or haw bad it is

from just trying to eyeball it looks to me the runway is rather short and he tried to make the turn going too fast and spun out

and he landed with his speed brake out that is a indicator of an inexperienced pilot

Obviously there’s differences but I went to compare this with the video of the Super Hornet doing a J turn at an air show. But I can’t find it anymore, internet is too big, must’ve been from 2006.

 

If you want to try and replicate it, they probably turned their anti lock breaks off, a lot of things become possible when your rear tires have no grip and are locked in place. I imagine such a thing might be possible up to a limit. There’s plenty of other modules with same behavior as long as ABS is off

Maybe

Maybe

This super blew the tire, which is a result of the spin. Although it looked almost identical to the DCS video above.

Yup:) thanks!

Maybe

This super blew the tire, which is a result of the spin. Although it looked almost identical to the DCS video above.

Thanks!!! Nice, shows the plane pitching backwards and most likely damaging the engine nozzles in the back there :/ but blown tire aswell, meaning this bug-report should be renamed to "... not causing blown tire".