D4n Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Who knows what this is? Couldn't find it in the manual. DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beta Sokol Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 It´s an icing sensor or visualizer, the more ice buildup the less stripes are visible. Maybe not implemented ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4n Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 ah interesting. Thanks. DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrustvector Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 oh I thought it was the pitot :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4n Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 No, as there is no opening in the front visible is why I already doubted that that would be pitot :P DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrustvector Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 yes my mistake its the RIO-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4n Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 yes my mistake its the RIO-3 And "RIO-3" is this visual ice probe? DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrustvector Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 https://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=127156&d=1447323413 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4n Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 W T F, 51 pages for ONE system only, OMG!!! :D Who created it? DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrustvector Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Russian engineering, the newer 8s use a different system SO-121VM its a vibrating one !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4n Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 vibrating where, near the pilots body so he senses vibration? Vibrating collective or stick? DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrustvector Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 the unit itself, the pilot gets enough vibration :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4n Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 Where is SO-121VM located in the Mi-8? DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrustvector Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I believe its in the same place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4n Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 But it vibrates that strong that pilot feels it? huh the unit itself, the pilot gets enough vibration DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 The paper shows it in the oil cooling fan inlet Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaOneSix Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 The item pictured is a visual ice detector. It's nothing more than a probe marked with 5mm paint stripes so the pilot can visually identify ice buildup if the automatic system isn't working. As far as the automatic detectors go, which are installed in the oil cooler fan inlet... The RIO-3 is older and uses a radioactive isotope in the detector. As ice builds up on it, a sensor receives fewer and fewer radioactive particles and once it gets below a certain threshold it trips the ice warning. On the newer SO-121 detector, the detector just vibrates at a high frequency. Ice buildup causes the vibrations to slow, and once the vibration frequency gets below a certain threshold, it trips the ice warning. W T F, 51 pages for ONE system only, OMG!!! :D Who created it? I did. I suppose I could have made it shorter but that's just how it came out. Making training presentations isn't my primary job, after all. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4n Posted January 12, 2019 Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 As ice builds up on it, a sensor receives fewer and fewer radioactive particles and once it gets below a certain threshold it trips the ice warning Sooo... that one had a Geigercounter on board? xD I guess I understand why the next model had a different system, as with the old model when they'd fly through a radioactive freezing area, the ice warning wouldn't appear? (dangerous) I did. Damn! how many hours did it take you? :huh: DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisper Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Damn! how many hours did it take you? :huh: AlphaOneSix has put many hours into describing various systems of the Mi8 at length. His docs are invaluable, I suggest you look them up, I couldn't find a central repository for them, search for threads with title "How it works" in the Mi8 section , like this one : https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=151326 Thanks again AlphaOneSix! Whisper of old OFP & C6 forums, now Kalbuth. Specs : i7 6700K / MSI 1070 / 32G RAM / SSD / Rift S / Virpil MongooseT50 / Virpil T50 CM2 Throttle / MFG Crosswind. All but Viggen, Yak52 & F16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4n Posted January 12, 2019 Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 Thanks! Somehow this gives me the impression that he himself isn't american, but more likely former soviet? (As Mi-8 originates from UDSSR times) That'd be awesome DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaOneSix Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Sooo... that one had a Geigercounter on board? xD I guess I understand why the next model had a different system, as with the old model when they'd fly through a radioactive freezing area, the ice warning wouldn't appear? (dangerous) If the ice itself was radioactive then I suppose they wouldn't get a warning, other than the visual one, along with other evidence that ice buildup could be occurring. But that scenario takes an awful lot of "what ifs" to get to. Damn! how many hours did it take you? :huh: That particular system probably took me 5 days, roughly. Maybe 20-30 hours of actual work. Thanks! Somehow this gives me the impression that he himself isn't american, but more likely former soviet? (As Mi-8 originates from UDSSR times) That'd be awesome I'm very American. :D The Mi-8/17 is everywhere. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaOneSix Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Thanks again AlphaOneSix! You're very welcome. I'm just happy that some people find those presentations useful. Besides my coworkers, I mean. Although they don't read them for fun like you guys do. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looney Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 AlphaOneSix has put many hours into describing various systems of the Mi8 at length. His docs are invaluable, I suggest you look them up, I couldn't find a central repository for them, search for threads with title "How it works" in the Mi8 section , like this one : https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=151326 Thanks again AlphaOneSix! I made a repository a while back, it is here: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=193976 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Commodore 64 | MOS6510 | VIC-II | SID6581 | DD 1541 | KCS Power Cartridge | 64Kb | 32Kb external | Arcade Turbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisper Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I made a repository a while back, it is here: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=193976 Thanks! Whisper of old OFP & C6 forums, now Kalbuth. Specs : i7 6700K / MSI 1070 / 32G RAM / SSD / Rift S / Virpil MongooseT50 / Virpil T50 CM2 Throttle / MFG Crosswind. All but Viggen, Yak52 & F16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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