VKB, what are your problems?

Hello VKB.

What u guys are doing with your potentional clients I have never seen before.

You offer High-End-Joysticks for private customers. You offer them on all your homepages.

But, it is just not possible to buy a joystick.

VKB, you are the only company on earth, who sells these kind of joysticks, all flight simmers

need. Can u please take that serious?

Why you always move your release dates? What kind of behavior is that?

Can you PLEASE be that professional, that you keep your deadlines you pronounced?

So, please, can you explain, where the problem is?

Cause I dont understand that.

They are taking it very serious and just as (if not more) frustrated as their customers. They stopped giving estimated release dates because when those estimates fell through people would throw a fit and complain that they don't keep their promises.

I get the feeling that both VKB and Virpil (because they were having or are still having stock issues as well) underestimated just how huge the market was for high end joysticks.

Hello !

Are you experiencing frustration because you can't spend your money ? There are alternatives to VKB if you really can't wait for their products to become broadly available.

As long as I didn't give any money to a company I can't hardly see myself asking something from this company. I'd have basically two choices : waiting for the lucky day when I'll be able to spend my money for their product, going to another manufacturer. This is as simple as that.

The very low availability of the VKB products has been in this state for years, I never saw their shop overflowing with products since I knew the company when looking for their Black Mamba. I don't see their policy changing anytime soon.

Hi.

No, I am experiencing frustration, cause announcements are not kept.

And this is unprofessional.

If I would act like this, I would not have any clients anymore.

Hello !

 

 

 

The very low availability of the VKB products has been in this state for years,

That's the problem. When will they realize the demand is higher than they expected and fix the problem? Hire more employees.

Very frustrating indeed. Been waiting for the MCG MK.II Pro for months and still no dice. If I wanted an alternative, I would buy an alternative. I already own a hotas warthog. I want to upgrade the stick, its as simple as that.

Same for me, waiting next availibility for their Gunfighter MkII.

I was in contact with their European contact (Eduard), next shipement is expected for Nov 18.

For me It is only one other product that I waiting for : Thrustmaster F-18 Stick...but no news on that product too

TM OR KBsim will get my money...Not both of them....

So gents get on work !

Notice from the VKB HQ there has been no new announcements, I think finally they get the message, say nothing until they have stock to sell.

My biggest issue is VKB HQ are not telling us the real story on why they have so many problems getting stock back in, plus there is a huge demand from other sim games and 2 space games where I see they have the same problem as DCS players. I've waited 15 months, but here is the thing I don't waiting even if its another 6 months as LONG as I'm given facts not fiction and that's all I've seen in the past year. As mentioned before I wonder if ED is aware of VKB's issues and the frustration we are having.

I'm afraid i'll have to go with another Warthog. I can't wait any longer and flying the F/A-18 without a Hotus is not the hot tip.

Hi.

 

No, I am experiencing frustration, cause announcements are not kept.

And this is unprofessional.

I guess that's why the new policy is to *not* make announcements anymore. No announcements, no frustration, and regained professionalism on VKB HQ's part. That sounds like the winning formula then, yes? :)

@F900

What difference does it make to ED that another company is having stock shortages and selling out their inventory? Answer : none.

This is the same backwards nonsense people are usually griping about. If you want something NOW then go buy something that's available NOW. If you want limited production run boutique equipment then get in line, watch for announcements and get comfortable. Whinging about it won't make joysticks magically appear. They want to sell products to you, it's a given they're working to achieve that. Outside that, they don't owe you an explanation or blow by blow of what's happening behind the scenes. It's nobody's business. They can close the doors and say 'we've made all we want and are closing shop, no joysticks 4U' if they want.

Buy a placeholder, like I did, to tide you over while you wait. And before somebody says 'BUT I CAN'T AFFORD A CHEAP PLACEHOLDER' then you probably shouldn't be buying $500+ fancy toys.

@F900

What difference does it make to ED that another company is having stock shortages and selling out their inventory? Answer : none.

 

This is the same backwards nonsense people are usually griping about. If you want something NOW then go buy something that's available NOW. If you want limited production run boutique equipment then get in line, watch for announcements and get comfortable. Whinging about it won't make joysticks magically appear. They want to sell products to you, it's a given they're working to achieve that. Outside that, they don't owe you an explanation or blow by blow of what's happening behind the scenes. It's nobody's business. They can close the doors and say 'we've made all we want and are closing shop, no joysticks 4U' if they want.

 

Buy a placeholder, like I did, to tide you over while you wait. And before somebody says 'BUT I CAN'T AFFORD A CHEAP PLACEHOLDER' then you probably shouldn't be buying $500+ fancy toys.

Zhukov,

Do you just follow me in these threads so you can just reply nonsense? You don't seem to reply to anyone else in the VKB threads other directed to myself. You have your joystick so what's your problem?

I'm not complaining nor griping, but I am allowed to express my frustration and disappointment just like anyone else in the countless of posts of people other are in the same position as myself.

So do me a favor don't reply to any of my posts, unless it is warranted and constructive, got it ?

@F900

What difference does it make to ED that another company is having stock shortages and selling out their inventory? Answer : none.

 

This is the same backwards nonsense people are usually griping about. If you want something NOW then go buy something that's available NOW. If you want limited production run boutique equipment then get in line, watch for announcements and get comfortable. Whinging about it won't make joysticks magically appear. They want to sell products to you, it's a given they're working to achieve that. Outside that, they don't owe you an explanation or blow by blow of what's happening behind the scenes. It's nobody's business. They can close the doors and say 'we've made all we want and are closing shop, no joysticks 4U' if they want.

 

Buy a placeholder, like I did, to tide you over while you wait. And before somebody says 'BUT I CAN'T AFFORD A CHEAP PLACEHOLDER' then you probably shouldn't be buying $500+ fancy toys.

Bull!

@f900ex

Welcome to public forums. Yes, you're entitled to complain, and I'm entitled to comment on or dispute those complaints. I pay little attention to WHO I'm replying to, as I really don't care. If I've objected to you in similar threads, it's probably because I considered your previous comments to be bs as well =) Only the first paragraph was aimed at you, regarding ED's involvement with VKB (not their problem), however. If you prefer an echo chamber you're welcome to ignore me, otherwise you'll have to live with it.

@Buzz

Short and to the point, I like it. Nevertheless until they take your money they don't owe you a damn thing.

Posted by AeroGator on VKB forums yesterday regarding availability of MCG grips and Gunfighter bases.

I used the "super-batch" definition above fr a reason. We have finally produced enough MCG grips to stock up for a few months (super rare small market versions will also be made soon), so grips are no problem any longer. Now we are working on an equally giant batch of bases, so we lay an end to a "not available" situation in all our outlets worldwide.

http://forum.vkb-sim.pro/viewtopic.php?f=28&p=32230#p32230

Maybe availability for everyone will improve nicely here soon.

They're closed this week for some Chinese holiday. What they call soon and what I call soon are miles apart.

Looking at this: http://forum.vkb-sim.pro/viewtopic.php?f=28&p=32230#p32230

Don't ya just LOVE the attitude? I wonder; did you guys acost these people at gunpoint and demand they go into the flight-stick business? I'm starting to wonder if I might have just happened upon what I can be doing with my retirement and my basement machine shop.

Looking at this: http://forum.vkb-sim.pro/viewtopic.php?f=28&p=32230#p32230

Don't ya just LOVE the attitude? I wonder; did you guys acost these people at gunpoint and demand they go into the flight-stick business? I'm starting to wonder if I might have just happened upon what I can be doing with my retirement and my basement machine shop.

I read that earlier and viewed it more in a positive light.

Hopefully this means - emphasis on hopefully - that in the near future here they will have a lot of stock available for order and shipments.

He can join Jack McKay, who is building his own flight sim now, supposedly. Cause it's all so easy, you know ;)