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Old 04-26-2020, 04:11 PM   #21
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Default against the mustang against the spit

I have recognized that I can take on mustangs, if they're not too bright: The A8 is a monstrous scissor-deamon, so you'll let the mustang take on you (and survive it's first attack), then you scissor untill it has to break off, and then you take it. That doesn't work against the spit though, it will tear through you every time. I think you have to fly the A8 against the spit with a lot of energy conserving... I don't know how that should work in the A8 though.
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Old 04-26-2020, 06:49 PM   #22
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Especial Bf 109 which could not pull out of high speed dive Large stick forces at high IAS
250-300km/h IAS is not a high speed..

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Old 09-13-2020, 11:19 PM   #23
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If defeating a P-51D AI(Ace) on an Anton is still an issue, I made this is a video.
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Old 09-13-2020, 11:30 PM   #24
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If defeating a P-51D AI(Ace) on an Anton is still an issue, here I there is a video.
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I can kill any AI from a bicycle.. try killing MAD in P51 for example..

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Old 09-13-2020, 11:49 PM   #25
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I can kill any AI from a bicycle.. try killing MAD in P51 for example..
Good for you, make a video with that. But the subject of the thread is clear. May be you have to open a new thread with a subject of your concern
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Old 09-18-2020, 11:40 PM   #26
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Especial Bf 109 which could not pull out of high speed dive Large stick forces at high IAS

Don't know where this myth is coming from. Finnish pilots were flying escort for their bombers diving with high speed (700+ km/h) and pulling up again.

Dangerous was to pull too many G at high speed because the tailplane could break off. But anyways this is a FW-190 thread...


Btw. the official top speed of the 109 was 750 km/h. The K model could already almost fly this speed when going level. Was it just able to fly straight at top speed because the stick forces were oh so high ?

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Don't know where this myth is coming from. Finnish pilots were flying escort for their bombers diving with high speed (700+ km/h) and pulling up again.

Dangerous was to pull too many G at high speed because the tailplane could break off. But anyways this is a FW-190 thread...


Btw. the official top speed of the 109 was 750 km/h. The K model could already almost fly this speed when going level. Was it just able to fly straight at top speed because the stick forces were oh so high ?
You should make a difference between IAS and TAS. The 109 suffered from very high stick forces @ speeds over 720 km/h IAS. Otherwise, the controls were very responsive, even at low speeds due to the automatic slats.
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Old 09-19-2020, 12:37 PM   #28
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You should make a difference between IAS and TAS.

No. Because the pilots just saw the speed on their instruments which shows IAS.
And the statement "Especial Bf 109 which could not pull out of high speed dive" is simply wrong, regardless of IAS or TAS. And "high stick forces" does not mean that the control surfaces have no effect anymore like e.g. the elevator of the P-38 at a certain speed.



So in other words: If you have a flight sim in which a BF109 can't pull out of a high speed dive using the stick because the controls freeze while a P-38F can pull out over the whole speed range without using rudder then you know it's unrealistic. Simple as that.

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Old 09-22-2020, 12:48 AM   #29
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Man, I'm glad it's not just me as well. I'm brushing up on my Anton familiarity in anticipation of the upcoming campaign. So I jump into some instant action scenarios against AI, and holy crap.

They get my wingman in about 10 or 15 seconds, then are unshakable on my tail shortly thereafter. The only ones I seem to have a chance against are the Thunderbolts, and that is really only if I happen to get a few hits in one of them at the beginning when in the head to head merge.
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