Silversmith Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Bomber Gunners insanely effective? A general observation that the defensive gunners in the Ju88/B17/A20 etc are WAY too effective. Seem to have Unlimited ammo and an insane continuous rate of fie that is totally unrealistic. Bombers like these have no need of escort fighters, they are totally lethal if you get anywhere remotely near them. Makes any interception attempt pretty pointless, not possible to recreate mass bomber raid interception as per Battle of Britain which is a great shame. Needs to be made more realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silversmith Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 oops.. apologies, just noticed another thread on the same subject Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silversmith Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 HA HA, found out how to defeat a bomber squadron. Attack so there is a bomber in line of sight/fire between you and the 'target' bomber. Your target will shoot down his own wingman whilst firing at you !! Just saw a JU88 shoot down 2 of his wingmen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Hope they flag all this as a priority fix > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMCATZ Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Well - yes. The gunners are too accurate. But.... In January 1943 B17`s were engaged by German fighters close to Wilhelmshaven. The German fighters were shocked because of the firepower of the flying fortresses. The American Forces lost 4 bombers. The German fighters lost 7 aircrafts. The Reichsluftwaffe calculated a kill to lose ratio against B17`s to one by one. The German fighters changed their tactics, attacked in the front, rushed through the lines in hope to hit the front. If bomber got problems and went out of the formation, all German fighters attacked the single bomber. There are a lot of interviews with old German veterans and all told the same: If you tried to attack from behind, you simply lost your life. All times in front.I tried that "tactic" in DCS and it worked fine for me. Unfortunately, all my wingmans (KI) tried the other classy way and died. So... overall...The gunners are too accurate, but the feeling seems to be right for me. Nice Interview (Unfortunately badly translated) Cheers Tom Born to fly but forced to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extranajero Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 There are a lot of interviews with old German veterans and all told the same: If you tried to attack from behind, you simply lost your life. Cheers Tom Do a search for Luftwaffe gun camera film on YouTube. Much of it is attacks from the rear. It's not the safest way to attack a bomber, but neither was it completely suicidal. Except in DCS of course... --------------------------------------------------------- PC specs:- Intel 386DX, 2mb memory, onboard graphics, 14" 640x480 monitor Modules owned:- Bachem Natter, Cessna 150, Project Pluto, Sopwith Snipe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 31, 2020 ED Team Share Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) Hi all when reporting issues please include a track replay showing an example. Gunner accuracy depends on AI skill level. thanks * Threads merged Edited July 31, 2020 by BIGNEWY Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_sukebe Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Regardless of the historical accuracy, I’d very much like the option to reduce the accuracy of skill level. Can that be added as a new “variable” that we can set in the mission editor? System: 9700, 64GB DDR4, 2070S, NVME2, Rift S, Jetseat, Thrustmaster F18 grip, VPC T50 stick base and throttle, CH Throttle, MFG crosswinds, custom button box, Logitech G502 and Marble mouse. Server: i5 2500@3.9Ghz, 1080, 24GB DDR3, SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted May 7, 2021 ED Team Share Posted May 7, 2021 We have already tuned them done in the recent past, unless you fly straight and level, its very hard to get quality hits, as well, if you fly with many planes against many bombers, there is even less chance of hits, as always though, we need tracks. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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