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Bomber Gunners insanely effective?

 

A general observation that the defensive gunners in the Ju88/B17/A20 etc are WAY too effective. Seem to have Unlimited ammo and an insane continuous rate of fie that is totally unrealistic. Bombers like these have no need of escort fighters, they are totally lethal if you get anywhere remotely near them. Makes any interception attempt pretty pointless, not possible to recreate mass bomber raid interception as per Battle of Britain which is a great shame. Needs to be made more realistic.

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HA HA, found out how to defeat a bomber squadron. Attack so there is a bomber in line of sight/fire between you and the 'target' bomber. Your target will shoot down his own wingman whilst firing at you !! Just saw a JU88 shoot down 2 of his wingmen!

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Well - yes. The gunners are too accurate. But....

In January 1943 B17`s were engaged by German fighters close to Wilhelmshaven. The German fighters were shocked because of the firepower of the flying fortresses. The American Forces lost 4 bombers. The German fighters lost 7 aircrafts.

The Reichsluftwaffe calculated a kill to lose ratio against B17`s to one by one. The German fighters changed their tactics, attacked in the front, rushed through the lines in hope to hit the front. If bomber got problems and went out of the formation, all German fighters attacked the single bomber.

 

There are a lot of interviews with old German veterans and all told the same: If you tried to attack from behind, you simply lost your life. All times in front.I tried that "tactic" in DCS and it worked fine for me. Unfortunately, all my wingmans (KI) tried the other classy way and died. So... overall...The gunners are too accurate, but the feeling seems to be right for me.

 

 

Nice Interview (Unfortunately badly translated)

 

 

 

Cheers

Tom

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There are a lot of interviews with old German veterans and all told the same: If you tried to attack from behind, you simply lost your life.

Cheers

Tom

 

Do a search for Luftwaffe gun camera film on YouTube. Much of it is attacks from the rear.

It's not the safest way to attack a bomber, but neither was it completely suicidal.

Except in DCS of course...

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Hi all

 

when reporting issues please include a track replay showing an example.

 

Gunner accuracy depends on AI skill level.

 

thanks

 

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Regardless of the historical accuracy, I’d very much like the option to reduce the accuracy of skill level.  Can that be added as a new “variable” that we can set in the mission editor?

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We have already tuned them done in the recent past, unless you fly straight and level, its very hard to get quality hits, as well, if you fly with many planes against many bombers, there is even less chance of hits, as always though, we need tracks.

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