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Old 10-08-2019, 07:03 PM   #11
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The A may be outdated but would work great with the warrior coming. Beside the A kicked ass and took names in the first golf war would love to see the A come to DCS. But then again I love the tomcat so go figure. For me the A is like the tomcat and the longbow is like a hornet with all the bells and stuff. I’ll take the A
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Old 10-08-2019, 09:16 PM   #12
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The A may be outdated but would work great with the warrior coming. Beside the A kicked ass and took names in the first golf war would love to see the A come to DCS. But then again I love the tomcat so go figure. For me the A is like the tomcat and the longbow is like a hornet with all the bells and stuff. I’ll take the A
We already have the ah1f planned for development fo those who want old school systems, and a "golf" war aircraft.

Therefore that another reason for me to want the ah64d, instead of another analog chopper, especially considering the ka50 (minus rwr") is a already more modern than the ah64a. I'd like at least 1 want 1 bluforce helo that is the rotary analogy of something like the hornet or viper in terms of avionics for the 21st century scenarios, that dcs is predominantly oriented at.
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Old 10-09-2019, 08:07 AM   #13
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AH-64A would be lot more interesting for weapon officer with it's manual target search and aiming systems. And it would be suited for cold war and Desert Storm scenarios.
And there if a chance it can be done at all.
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Old 10-09-2019, 02:25 PM   #14
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I love to see how we cope with the HOTAS in DCS. Combining two Virpil MongoosT-50CM2 Grips can replicate most of the gunners/front seaters targeting equipment. Then you could use the normal Hotas Warthog and rudders as the flight controls in the front seat and back seat.

Or you don't map the front seats cyclic and collective, but just add a throttle and one of the sticks to the back seat? Anything else is not necessary on the HOTAS, so we are good with a mouse.

The Longbow's Weapon controls are definitely a challenge. Keep in mind, the 4 to 5 hats on each side have typically 3-4 positions and you need both at the same time, so even with modifiers for the hats, we lack switches quickly:



Then there is the cyclic which has some 4 hats and usual buttons alone:

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Old 10-09-2019, 09:16 PM   #15
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Don't want to be the party pooper here, but are you guys sure this belongs to the Ka50 thread and not the whishlist for DCS 2.5?
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Old 10-09-2019, 10:15 PM   #16
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I love to see how we cope with the HOTAS in DCS. Combining two Virpil MongoosT-50CM2 Grips can replicate most of the gunners/front seaters targeting equipment. Then you could use the normal Hotas Warthog and rudders as the flight controls in the front seat and back seat.

Or you don't map the front seats cyclic and collective, but just add a throttle and one of the sticks to the back seat? Anything else is not necessary on the HOTAS, so we are good with a mouse.

The Longbow's Weapon controls are definitely a challenge. Keep in mind, the 4 to 5 hats on each side have typically 3-4 positions and you need both at the same time, so even with modifiers for the hats, we lack switches quickly:



Then there is the cyclic which has some 4 hats and usual buttons alone:

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Finally the Collective with two "Grips" stacked, adding another bunch of hats and buttons:

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That is a lot of buttons and hats for sure! I wonder if it would be easier/faster/better to make an FC3 style simulation for the Apache - at least initially. I normally don't like that idea, but with so many new aircraft in DCS, and with so many modern ones, I have trouble keep up with them all. I know the Warthog like the back of my hand, but that took me a few years to master, so I'd actually think I'd like an FC3 style Apache just so I get to fly and shoot it without years of training hah :-)


I'm also thinking for a multi-crew two player aircraft, it would be much easier to get my friends into the gunner's seat if they didn't need all of the HOTAS gear - which is where FC3 style Apache would be advantagous (more copies sold to ED, and more people to fly with for me ). If they could target and shoot with a basic controller and mouse and keyboard, then I know I'd have a few dedicated gunners to fly with.



EDIT: I forgot to mention what an awesome looking cockpit that is!
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Old 10-10-2019, 01:55 AM   #17
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Good idea and I guess my error. Didn't realize I had posted in the KA-50 wishlist section.

This message has been duplicated and added as thread in the General/DCS 2.5/Wishlist section of the forum.

Thanks for the tip!

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Old 10-10-2019, 01:59 AM   #18
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More likely to get replies - and be seen - if you put the wish for a AH-64 in the general wish-list, not in the Ka-50 thread.
Good idea and I guess my error. Didn't realize I had posted in the KA-50 wishlist section.

This message has been duplicated and added as thread in the General/DCS 2.5/Wishlist section of the forum.

Thanks for the tip!

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