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Old 12-14-2018, 07:58 PM   #11
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To avoid confusion, I made another screenshot in the similar conditions:
If you say so I'll believe you, though still not sure as they also upload renders to screenshots, but may be in-game. That blue sky seemed to me that background they use in renders.



Anyhow, I still think second one is better though I'll wait to next week so I see in person and not just a screenshot.



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Old 12-14-2018, 08:37 PM   #12
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They are both very nice.

But I prefer the new one. Same thing with the new Stang pit.
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Old 12-15-2018, 01:32 AM   #13
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I like the quality of the new textures.

I don't like the extra level of weathering added. The older version was in the sweet spot IMO.
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Old 12-15-2018, 09:12 AM   #14
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Does anyone have period reference photos of the 109's cockpit?
I ask because I'm curious how beat up and 'old' they looked while operational. I feel like sometimes the cockpit wear gets overdone as the artists use 70 year old museum relics as reference.
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Old 12-15-2018, 08:44 PM   #15
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Does anyone have period reference photos of the 109's cockpit?
I ask because I'm curious how beat up and 'old' they looked while operational. I feel like sometimes the cockpit wear gets overdone as the artists use 70 year old museum relics as reference.
I wish there were colour period pics with quality enough to see such a detail in a cockpit. I don't know of anything, that kind of things is a really rare thing and I can tell you I've search for modelling business, even worst such a relatively rare bird as K4 is, but lets see if somebody can enlighten us with something.


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Old 12-16-2018, 06:07 PM   #16
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I mean, they don't have to be color.
I just want to see how beat to hell they are.
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Old 12-16-2018, 06:11 PM   #17
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I mean, here's a sight that has a few and they look pretty prestine.
https://www.worldwarphotos.info/gall...cockpit-photo/
This one appears to have been shot down or crahsed, and still looks pretty fresh.
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Old 12-16-2018, 08:16 PM   #18
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I mean, here's a sight that has a few and they look pretty prestine.
But B&W pics can be really tricky, I've seen pics of the same aircraft in B&W and colour and B&W looks good and pristine as you say whilst in colour the aircraft is really battered.

Still, control panel looks good in the sun light but pay attention to canopy laterals (weird enough as you climb and step in left side but right also shows wear and tear having the cupola there) and look at foot rest down low, also dirt and battered. If we have to pay attention to pic info it says it's a Swiss Bf109G-6, so well maintained and not long flown aircraft, nothing to do with front line examples. And that's in a B&W pic.


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Old 12-17-2018, 12:13 PM   #19
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Swiss Bf109G-6s were either interned airplanes that landed on their territory during the war (means: used) or a batch of G6's bought in the '44 and probably flown just like any other machine during the war. These were not hangar queens.

Though one has to consider that Bf-109K's when the war has ended were, at worst, in service for only 5 months.
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Old 12-17-2018, 02:14 PM   #20
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Swiss Bf109G-6s were either interned airplanes that landed on their territory during the war (means: used) or a batch of G6's bought in the '44 and probably flown just like any other machine during the war. These were not hangar queens.

Though one has to consider that Bf-109K's when the war has ended were, at worst, in service for only 5 months.
AFAIK, nope, G-6 were a pay for an aircraft (Bf110 with radar) that Germans wanted back, so brand new ones.

Anyhow, well those tend to be hangar queens, believe me. Whenever a country only owns a handful of aircraft and furthermore they are a late model hardly earned (as a bribe, well) high performance model like those were they are hangar queens and tend to be highly cared for sure. It happened in many countries. I mean, Swiss even has early export Emils examples in pristine condition at a museum mate…


On the other hand, as has been discussed before right here, IIRC K4 entered service as soon as October '44 (before G10 actually) and although shortage in fuel and everything in the late war they were there to the end (that's more than 5 months). But, being the ultimate 109 I'm sure they tried to use them as much as possible as probably everything they had, meaning several flight hours daily till they were destroyed or grounded for whatever reason, so highly battered aircraft that anyway were probably built in low quality and short time. It's a completely different scenario.


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