eWildcat Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Because they're different aircraft, and you have to take into account matters of acceptable loadouts on wingtips, FOV provided to missiles on each hardpoint, and know which hardpoints mean a rail-launched missile or an ejected one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Jockey Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 (edited) Thank you people for your insight about my questions. Yeah looking closely at the technical aspects (drag vortices at wingtip and the several other aspects) it makes sense I believe. Still, the sight of a heavier missile at the wingtip was somewhat a novelty to me when the F-16 started employing it that way (and not many other fighters do it I think). Edited June 3, 2019 by Top Jockey Hangar FC3 | F-14A/B | F-16C | F/A-18C | MiG-21bis | Mirage 2000C ... ... JA 37 | Kfir | MiG-23 | Mirage IIIE Mi-8 MTV2 system i7-4790 K , 16 GB DDR3 , GTX 1660 Ti 6GB , Samsung 860 QVO 1TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzU Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 They do it so we can watch the wings flop around. :) Buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Clark Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Second is that 'pitbul' radar on board 120 would have greated FOV for times when 120 would be released at shorter range Seems to me FOV at short ranges would be more important for an AIM-9X than an AMRAAM. I'd want my wide-FOV dogfight missiles on the station with the greatest unobstructed FOV. Curious why F/A-18 , Typhoons, Rafale, and Groppen don't follow similar loadout. For the Hornet at least, allowable wingtip station loading is probably complicated by them being outboard of the wing fold point. Oil In The Water Hornet Campaign. Bunny's: Form-Fillable Controller Layout PDFs | HOTAS Kneeboards | Checklist Kneeboards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Jockey Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Seems to me FOV at short ranges would be more important for an AIM-9X than an AMRAAM. I'd want my wide-FOV dogfight missiles on the station with the greatest unobstructed FOV. ... Yep since it's an HOBS missile, a bigger unobstructed FOV is more important for the AIM-9X than for the AMRAAM. Hangar FC3 | F-14A/B | F-16C | F/A-18C | MiG-21bis | Mirage 2000C ... ... JA 37 | Kfir | MiG-23 | Mirage IIIE Mi-8 MTV2 system i7-4790 K , 16 GB DDR3 , GTX 1660 Ti 6GB , Samsung 860 QVO 1TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaRata Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Vibration … Vibration damages the AIM 9, seeker ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMEDooley Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 The wingtip on the hornet was only designed for the sidewinder LAU. The 120 requires a different LAU. The 16’s wingtip is compatible for both LAU’s. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobek Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Vibration … Vibration damages the AIM 9, seeker ... Possibly, yes, but it definitely reduces the service life of the wing. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid18120 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 120s on the tip "stabilizes" the wing IIRC [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Simming since 2005 My Rig: Gigabyte X470 Aorus Ultra Gaming, AMD Ryzen7 2700X, G.Skill RipJaws 32GB DDR4-3200, EVGA RTX 2070 Super Black Gaming, Corsair HX850 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobek Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 120s on the tip "stabilizes" the wing IIRC Yes, but it causes torsional bending as opposed to the transversal flutter of the Sidewinder, because it's bigger and hence its center of gravity is much further forward. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notso Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Having 120's on the tips serves two purposes in that it increases the F-16's already impressive roll rate and having the weight of the 120's on the tips reduces wing tip flutter and reduces stress from flutter vibration. I've never heard about the increased roll rate, but the wingtip flutter issue to increase wing life was the answer when I asked a viper buddy of mine why the 120s were usually carried on the wingtip stations. System HW: i9-9900K @5ghz, MSI 11GB RTX-2080-Ti Trio, G-Skill 32GB RAM, Reverb HMD, Steam VR, TM Warthog Hotas Stick & Throttle, TM F/A-18 Stick grip add-on, TM TFRP pedals. SW: 2.5.6 OB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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