DCS World Patch Notes Discussion Thread

wowbagger · September 24, 2020

Do you really think they whipped up all those fixes since the rage thread?

Isn't it more likely that these things had been in the works for a while, like Ron said?

I'm not suggesting that all these were coded in the last week, no. However I take anything Ron says with Dead Sea quantities of NaCl.

The entire year of Harrier patch notes looks like this:

DCS 2.5.6.54046 Open Beta

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DCS 2.5.6.53756 Open Beta

Sound missing for AI aircraft once airborne bug fix.

DCS 2.5.6.52437 Open Beta

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DCS 2.5.6.52196 Open Beta

Added engine igniter sound.

CAUTION, CAUTION auditory tone sounded sometimes even after cautions had been acknowledged.

Added air start logic.

Added engine windmilling.

USS Tarawa: Modified Parking and taxi zones (Work in Progress).

Corrected speedbrake switch control logic and behavior for OUT, NORM, IN controls to allow partial extension/retraction.

Corrected LIDS and Speedbrake should be out already in cold start.

Added loss of electrical or hydraulic power to speedbrake to cause air loads due to airspeed to close speedbrake.

Fixed speed brake advisory to not show when landing gear up and speedbrake retracted OR landing gear down and speedbrake correctly at 25 degrees.

Fixed fuel shutoff handle moving when it was supposed to be locked.

Fixed momentary switch behavior for APU switch.

Fixed momentary switch behavior for Compass/Lights Test switch.

USS Tarawa: Modified Parking and taxi zones (Work in Progress).

DCS 2.5.6.50979 Open Beta

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DCS 2.5.6.50793 Open Beta

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DCS 2.5.6.50726 Open Beta

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DCS 2.5.6.50321 Open Beta

Fix IFR Probe responding to switch command without hydraulic power available

Fixed cockpit alerts (cautions, voice warnings, maneuver tone, RWR alerts, weapon tones) to properly go through headphone/headset source

Fixed incorrect RPM bias due to H2O mode working with Manual Fuel enabled

Fixed H2O dump not functioning

Fixed 2x Right MK-82 AIR incorrectly set as MK-82 Snakeyes

Fixed MK-81 positioning

Overhaul to WCA and Voice Warning logic for better management of fault acknowledgement and priority

Fixed 15 SEC solid vs. flashing logic

Further improved GPWS cues

Improved auto-start sequence to give more time for cues to be heard through sequence

Fixed DEP RES should only show when degraded not when in operation

Fixed SKID should cause CAUTION CAUTION when Anti-Skid is OFF

Fixed required time between BINGO auditory warning to be 60 seconds

Fixed required time between FUEL LOW LEFT or FUEL LOW RIGHT auditory warning to be 60 seconds

Fixed required time between GPWS CHECK GEAR auditory warning to be 8 seconds

Improved JPTL limiter check logic

Fixed WCA for SAAHS Pitch, Roll, Yaw light not properly indicated SAAHS is disabled when paddle switch pressed

Fixed WCA for LIDS when position disagrees with nominal position (either due to retract override switch or hydraulic failure)

Fix voltmeter always stuck at 27.5V - during checklist voltmeter should now change during checklist tests

Fixed logic for DROOP light to go out during full aileron deflection per checklists

DCS 2.5.6.49798 Open Beta

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DCS 2.5.6.49718 Open Beta

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DCS 2.5.6.49314 Open Beta

GPWS "Pull Up" rules rework to make it less sensitive

TPOD now stows when placed in Standby

Sidewinder SEAM mode is enabled

Sidewinder firing when not in AA mode bug fix

Sidearm firing when not in AG mode bug fix

MPCD + HUD Night mode update

EMERG Page with Emergency procedures is enabled

Corrected issue causing infinite sound bug

Improved delays of auditory cues to when the fault occurs

Improved prioritization of auditory cues based on fault priority

Fixed GEAR WCA light and auditory cue logic

Fixed errant CAUTION, CAUTION auditory alert when starting mission

Further improvements to GPWS auditory tone logic as well as corrected rules for determining GPWS alert conditions

Fixed CAUTION, CAUTION not allowed to replay for a minimum of 5 seconds if already played

DCS 2.5.6.47404 Open Beta

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DCS 2.5.6.47224 Open Beta

Updated exterior models - fixed tail code number

Updated Training Mission 9 (LHA) - TACAN changed so there is no conflict with Kobuleti

DCS 2.5.6.45915 Open Beta

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DCS 2.5.6.45317 Open Beta

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DCS 2.5.6.44266 Open Beta

NSEQ routing now enable

EHSD Overlay 1: Air refueling zones enabled (max 3)

EHSD Overlay 2: Flight plan route display enabled

ILV cockpit files updated

Fixed issue with the guns firing with a Nozzle angle less than 30 Degrees

Fixed fuel pump keybind issue

Improved nose wheel steering logic

DCS 2.5.6.43872 Open Beta

Fixed issue with invisible KC-130 Tanker

DCS 2.5.6.43453 Open Beta

CAS page update, you can now edit and delete records

Fixed cockpit texture text issue

Fixed bomb release order

Fixed CTD after alignment when selecting DATA page

Fixed Flashing letters in HUD

Fixed TACAN offset symbol position in the MPCD

Fixed VVM HUD position will now remain on the same horizontal plane with the GVM

Changed the gun pod ammo to PGU-32/U SAPHEI-T 25 mm rounds

DCS 2.5.5.41962 Open Beta

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Combined with almost total radio silence on the AV-8B forum on the part of the developers.

Yesterday's patch looks like:

DCS 2.5.6.55363 Open Beta

Added vertical tail damage parts and fragments.
Fixed damage model issue where parts would not fragment off.
Fixed damage model issue where weapons would sometimes remain on destroyed wings.
Added INS course set keybinds.
Added DMT now slaved to AIM-9 seeker.
Fixed erratic control functionality with altimeter adjustments.
Fixed erratic control functionality with CRS knob adjustments.
Fixed Comm channel selector not sequencing correctly.
Fixed TPOD still in power-up mode when starting initial conditions to in-air or engines on.
Fixed inverted HUD reject logic.
Fixed AGM-122 Sidearm seeker not aligning with RWR source signal.
Removed incorrect HUD limitations for AGM-122 Sidearm ready-for-release.
Fixed AIM-9 incorrectly firing when cycling from AG to AA then back to AG.
Added ADI cage toggle keybind.
Added ADI pitch adjust keybind.
Added GBU-32 JDAM.
Added GBU-54 Laser JDAM.
Replaced USAF AGM-65G with USN AGM-65F.
Fixed rudder trim in-cockpit switch not operating.
Fixed rudder trim indication in cockpit and in controls indicator.
Fixed SSS Left should now sequentially cycle between EHSD centered, EHSD decentered, and ECM pages.
Fixed ECM page not returning to the original MPCD format.
Fixed EHSD course over ground incorrect in Mag heading mode.
Fixed EHSD decenter display overlay getting mis-placed.
Fixed EHSD moving map on MPCD too bright.
Fixed EHSD resulting in symbology misplaced when zoom set to AUTO.
Fixed Course Error not showing in the EHSD.
Fixed font for EHSD to be correct size.
Fixed inverted default rocket range profile values.
Fixed Left MPCD brightness control not operating correctly.
Fixed Right MPCD brightness control not operating correctly.
Fixed RWR still partially functioning when turned off.
Fixed RWR minimum volume too loud.
Fixed missing RWR power/volume knob adjustment increments.
Added RWR Declutter option: When selecting LIM only contacts that are locked, guiding weapons or that are inside the LETHAL ring will appear.
Fixed pull-up cue not occuring when selected.
Fixed dual rack bombs not releasing in the correct order.
Fixed top-right rocker switch on left MPCD bleeding into bezel.
Fixed scaling of HUD repeater on MPCD to be correct size.
Fixed engine efficiency table error at very high altitudes that was resulting in higher than expected thrust loss.
Fixed SAAHS paddle disable incorrectly resetting stick trim position and not resetting rudder trim and will now correctly restore rudder trim when released.
Fixed Speedbrake logic based on SME information to extend as long as OUT is pressed and will fully retract when IN is pressed (Allows for partial extension but will always fully retract).
Fixed aircraft diverting in some cases prior to maneuvering tone envelope.
Fixed infinite coefficient values in some conditions of large body angular rates (out of control).
Modified structural load damage to no longer be instantaneous, now requires sustained over-tolerance for structural (wing) failure.
Modified TPOD axis dead-zone to be slightly reduced.
Added missing white indication on Emergency Battery Handle.
Added Emergency Gear rotation and pull in Cockpit Model.
Added emergency gear deployment logic.
Added emergency gear battery logic.
Updated gear handle logic.
Gear handle light logic corrections.
Added gear DN LOCK OVRD button logic.
Added keybinds for gear DN LOCK OVRD.
Added keybind for Gear Emergency Deployment.
Added keybind for Gear Emergency Battery Activate.
Corrected flat black background on some MPCD pages.
Corrected HUD pitch ladder behavior.
Corrected HUD flight path marker behavior
Updated TTT/TOT function to continuously calculate Command Speed (CS).
Added Weapons Release Tone.
Fixed missing seat height adjustment control. Seat model animation work-in-progress.
Added ejection seat ground safety handle arming logic. Ejection will not happen unless the seat is armed.

And we have a new community manager who is actively posting and engaging the community in the last week.

Also, a similar thread for Mig-19 managed to get the ADF radio bug fixed in couple of weeks, after a year and half of it being neglected.

So while I don't think the community unhappiness caused yesterday's bug fixes to be magically coded in the past week, I do think it spurred on active development for the module and probably got many of them put into the update queue.

... Or perhaps it's just a timely coincidence. :no:

However, whatever the reason, it's great to see yesterday's patch for the Harrier, and I welcome such progress enthusiastically.

Edited September 24, 2020 by wowbagger

Rickling · September 24, 2020

I've been downloading the new OB for the past 6 hours, why the @*&^#*! did they stop using torrents? 'Im assuming that's why it now takes about 30-40 times longer than before? That's not an improvement at all. Sorry I still feel like a noob after one year of playing DCS.

TaxDollarsAtWork · September 24, 2020

I have not tested it but if you're right I don't mind it as long as it track alright and can destroy its target.
AIM-120 missile. The probability of countermeasure spoofing returned to the old value.
I'm little bit dissapointed by this after few testing both SP and MP because the Amraam is now more susceptible to chaffs , no idea why ED did it. Have not found a thread discussing why this was necessary.

Here is ED's reasoning for rolling it back

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4368210&postcount=8027

In short, it was an unintended side effect of changes to the CCM scale

NineLine · September 24, 2020

Ya, it's amazing what some torches and pitchforks can accomplish, which years of waiting patiently seemingly cannot.

Many/Most of the additions/fixes were already sitting waiting before the pitchforks were sharpened and torches lit...

Oceandar · September 24, 2020

There's entire thread with this discussion on russian part of the forum where A LOT of people accused ED that they buffed AIM-120 (and complained about its chaff resistance in particular). There were plenty of english-speaking folks who asked questions and read replies with Google Translate in this thread (and complained about AIM-120 too of course).

Here is ED's reasoning for rolling it back

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4368210&postcount=8027
In short, it was an unintended side effect of changes to the CCM scale

Too bad I don't speak Russian. Well... What can I say as I'm clueless at technical stuff like that lol. Its time to adjust how I fly with or against the Amraam.

Thank you both of you for the info.

ouky1991 · September 24, 2020

"Effects. The Speed smoke and fire was improved."

I was under impression we are getting the new effects. I haven't noticed any improvements.

Also inverted mouse camera for external view doesn't work now.

wowbagger · September 24, 2020

Many/Most of the additions/fixes were already sitting waiting before the pitchforks were sharpened and torches lit...

It's good they had them ready to go then. Their timing on these was both impeccable and desperately needed.

Glad it's moving forwards.

(Incidentally, and I know this isn't the correct forum for this, but whenever I hit preview post, the editor seems to add extra carriage returns. Does this happen to anyone else? And if anyone has a link to a solution could you send it my way? Cheers)

Northstar98 · September 24, 2020

Community Managers...Can you please ask when the Stable version of 2.5.6 will be done?
I really would like them to get back into that groove of open beta...fixes the bugs...and release to stable. it's been 2 months

Stable user here, yes the wait is tough, but I imagine if next weeks OB patch goes well, we could have one by October the 7th. This however assumes that the A-10C II module goes off without a hitch. So I'd estimate around mid-October realistically.

wilbur81 · September 24, 2020

Granted that I fly the DCS Hornet almost exclusively - Yesterday's OB update seems like a really good one! :thumbup:

Thanks for all the work, ED Team!

PS - Love parking the sim in F3 view and flying the hornet around RC style... listening to that "Hornet-Howl" at that sweet-spot airspeed. :)

Edited September 24, 2020 by wilbur81

Corsi · September 24, 2020

"Effects. The Speed smoke and fire was improved."

I was under impression we are getting the new effects. I haven't noticed any improvements.

Also inverted mouse camera for external view doesn't work now.

look at the destruction of a airplane for example...

ouky1991 · September 24, 2020

look at the destruction of a airplane for example...

What do you mean, like when it slams the ground? I thought speed smoke was this:

Edit: Never mind, there's an answer in the unofficial roadmap thread:

The all-new explosions, fire and smoke effects are also nearly finished and now being fine-tuned. Will be released "soon".

Fingers crossed it makes it in OB this year.

Edited September 24, 2020 by ouky1991

Taz1004 · September 24, 2020

The all-new explosions, fire and smoke effects are also nearly finished and now being fine-tuned. Will be released "soon".

I really hope it's ALL NEW... emphasis on "ALL".

Looks like they've been updating effects over the years but few at a time and now there are like 6 or 7 different particle systems. Hope the new one replaces *ALL*. Not just add another system to the mess.

speed-of-heat · September 24, 2020

I really hope it's ALL NEW... emphasis on "ALL".

Looks like they've been updating effects over the years but few at a time and now there are like 6 or 7 different particle systems. Hope the new one replaces *ALL*. Not just add another system to the mess.

this

evilnate · September 25, 2020

For explosion effects, I hope we see it go from:

To:

Guille H. Mono · September 25, 2020

For explosion effects, I hope we see it go from:

To:

Have You tried with more than one bomb?:smilewink:

Raven (Elysian Angel) · September 25, 2020

Anyone know what this means?

I can't see any difference in my testing.

I bet it allows for more flexible FARPS: aircraft landing on public roads close enough to a FARP should be able to refuel/rearm with this change. Did you test if this works?

wilbur81 · September 25, 2020

Have You tried with more than one bomb?:smilewink:

Was going to say, our current DCS explosions look pretty amazing to me as they are. :thumbup:

evilnate · September 25, 2020

Was going to say, our current DCS explosions look pretty amazing to me as they are. :thumbup:

I disagree. To me, there is opportunity to improve!

wilbur81 · September 25, 2020

I disagree. To me, there is opportunity to improve!

does 'pretty amazing' preclude the opportunity to improve?

ricktoberfest · September 25, 2020

I bet it allows for more flexible FARPS: aircraft landing on public roads close enough to a FARP should be able to refuel/rearm with this change. Did you test if this works?

Yes this works now. Tried it yesterday.

Modules: A10C, F5, F14, F16, F18, F86, AV8B, UH1, Mi8, Ka50, FC3, Supercarrier, CA, P47, P51

ThorBrasil · September 25, 2020

For explosion effects, I hope we see it go from:

To:

I hope the explosions are like this. :music_whistling:

WelshZeCorgi · September 25, 2020

I personally hope they do something about bullet impacts and water explosions. Right now, a 7.62 rifle round will kick up as much dirt as a 20mm and the water explosions are looking a bit dated and comically oversized for bullets and cannon rounds.

shagrat · September 27, 2020

I hope they go for better splash/fragment damage representation, especially for area effect weapons like Cluster Bombs or rockets, before they do eye-candy that does not improve the weapons effects.

Currently dropping CBUs or using rockets against infantry and unarmored vehicles is doing far not enough damage, unless you score a direct hit with a bomblet or rocket. Against infantry this is, let's say difficult.

sublime · September 29, 2020

I hope they go for better splash/fragment damage representation, especially for area effect weapons like Cluster Bombs or rockets, before they do eye-candy that does not improve the weapons effects.
Currently dropping CBUs or using rockets against infantry and unarmored vehicles is doing far not enough damage, unless you score a direct hit with a bomblet or rocket. Against infantry this is, let's say difficult.

+1 .50 cals for US need improvement and fragmentation from bombs esp need improvement. You need tonjit way to close now w. Many bombs

NineLine · September 29, 2020

Guys, this is a discussion of what is in the patch notes, not what you hope to see in the patch notes, please.

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