Growling Sidewinder Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 I can't get any of my trim controls to respond. I used the default keyboard keys and mapped the trim nose up and down to my Thrustmaster BUT i'm still not seeing it do anything when I press them. The in cockpit joystick doesn't move either. other planes I can visually the see cockpit view joystick moving in relation to my trim input. am i doing something wrong? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] HP OMEN 880-130 - Windows 10/Intel Core i7-8700K/2TB HDD/ 1TB SSD/32GB DDR4 RAM/GTX 1080 Ti https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCh2rDh7vXGeoh1LlzL3QEwg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epoch Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 #MeToo I've been experiencing unresponsive trim too. Mapped to Warthog trim hat. Haven't had time to investigate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cibit Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 I found holding the trim down till you reach required position works but trimming like we do in other planes does not work i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sze5003 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Wags mentioned this is normal and has a slower than what we are used to response. I will say it is very slow though. What I usually do is press it once, then press and hold the second time. It will trim up or down after this, but very very slowly. Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9 13900K-NZXT Kraken X73 AIO | 32GB DDR5 G Skill Neo 6600mhz | 2TB Sk Hynix P41 Platinum nvme |1TB Evo 970 Plus nvme | OCZ Trion 150 960GB | 256GB Samsung 830 | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | Gigabyte OC 4090 | Phanteks P600S | 1000W MSI MPG A1000G | LG C2 42 Evo 3840x2160 @ 120hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growling Sidewinder Posted June 2, 2018 Author Share Posted June 2, 2018 Wags mentioned this is normal and has a slower than what we are used to response. I will say it is very slow though. What I usually do is press it once, then press and hold the second time. It will trim up or down after this, but very very slowly. is this how its SUPPOSED to be? or is it a bug ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] HP OMEN 880-130 - Windows 10/Intel Core i7-8700K/2TB HDD/ 1TB SSD/32GB DDR4 RAM/GTX 1080 Ti https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCh2rDh7vXGeoh1LlzL3QEwg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sze5003 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 is this how its SUPPOSED to be? or is it a bug ?They are saying this is how it is supposed to be. Makes trimming for landing difficult with the flaps issue now that drops the nose so much when you go full flaps. You have to press trim twice it seems and hold.it in the second consecutive press and then you should see a slow response. Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9 13900K-NZXT Kraken X73 AIO | 32GB DDR5 G Skill Neo 6600mhz | 2TB Sk Hynix P41 Platinum nvme |1TB Evo 970 Plus nvme | OCZ Trion 150 960GB | 256GB Samsung 830 | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | Gigabyte OC 4090 | Phanteks P600S | 1000W MSI MPG A1000G | LG C2 42 Evo 3840x2160 @ 120hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmy Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Apparently, when you're Gear Up, Trim works more like we're used to in say, the A-10C but Gear Down, it needs to be held for a longer period of time and not just tapped. Gear Up trim affects flight control surfaces but Gear Down, it actually should move the stick to relieve back pressure. At least this is the interpretation in our Squadron where we have former Hornet maintainers. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.476vfightergroup.com/content.php High Quality Aviation Photography For Personal Enjoyment And Editorial Use. www.crosswindimages.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sze5003 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Apparently, when you're Gear Up, Trim works more like we're used to in say, the A-10C but Gear Down, it needs to be held for a longer period of time and not just tapped. Gear Up trim affects flight control surfaces but Gear Down, it actually should move the stick to relieve back pressure. At least this is the interpretation in our Squadron where we have former Hornet maintainers.Interesting feedback. Even gear up I have to hold down the trim button on my warthog stick to get it to move a little. I guess it just takes some more getting used to. Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9 13900K-NZXT Kraken X73 AIO | 32GB DDR5 G Skill Neo 6600mhz | 2TB Sk Hynix P41 Platinum nvme |1TB Evo 970 Plus nvme | OCZ Trion 150 960GB | 256GB Samsung 830 | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | Gigabyte OC 4090 | Phanteks P600S | 1000W MSI MPG A1000G | LG C2 42 Evo 3840x2160 @ 120hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growling Sidewinder Posted June 2, 2018 Author Share Posted June 2, 2018 Interesting feedback. Even gear up I have to hold down the trim button on my warthog stick to get it to move a little. I guess it just takes some more getting used to. ya i had gear up and still was seeing no feedback from trim. (granted i wasnt holding it down as u guys are saying) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] HP OMEN 880-130 - Windows 10/Intel Core i7-8700K/2TB HDD/ 1TB SSD/32GB DDR4 RAM/GTX 1080 Ti https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCh2rDh7vXGeoh1LlzL3QEwg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sze5003 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 ya i had gear up and still was seeing no feedback from trim. (granted i wasnt holding it down as u guys are saying)Hold it down, sometimes I do one press, then second press+hold and it responds but it's a very slow response. Once you get used to it, trimming in the A10c will mess you up since all you do there is tap trim and it responds much quicker. Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9 13900K-NZXT Kraken X73 AIO | 32GB DDR5 G Skill Neo 6600mhz | 2TB Sk Hynix P41 Platinum nvme |1TB Evo 970 Plus nvme | OCZ Trion 150 960GB | 256GB Samsung 830 | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | Gigabyte OC 4090 | Phanteks P600S | 1000W MSI MPG A1000G | LG C2 42 Evo 3840x2160 @ 120hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Jaw Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Will I see the stab trim changing in the FCS DDI? "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, ASUS RTX3060ti/8GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sze5003 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Yes if you have your fcs page you should see your stab value change. Trim is terribly slow but it does work just not as quick as other modules. Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9 13900K-NZXT Kraken X73 AIO | 32GB DDR5 G Skill Neo 6600mhz | 2TB Sk Hynix P41 Platinum nvme |1TB Evo 970 Plus nvme | OCZ Trion 150 960GB | 256GB Samsung 830 | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | Gigabyte OC 4090 | Phanteks P600S | 1000W MSI MPG A1000G | LG C2 42 Evo 3840x2160 @ 120hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBQ Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Any ideas on how to reset the trim? I've been doing touch and go's and am finding it difficult to reset trim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_sukebe Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Any ideas on how to reset the trim? I've been doing touch and go's and am finding it difficult to reset trim. That's my real question. I get how to set trim for take off. What I haven't yet seen is a simple explanation of what we should be setting after take off and how. Can anyone help? System: 9700, 64GB DDR4, 2070S, NVME2, Rift S, Jetseat, Thrustmaster F18 grip, VPC T50 stick base and throttle, CH Throttle, MFG crosswinds, custom button box, Logitech G502 and Marble mouse. Server: i5 2500@3.9Ghz, 1080, 24GB DDR3, SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sze5003 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) That's my real question. I get how to set trim for take off. What I haven't yet seen is a simple explanation of what we should be setting after take off and how. Can anyone help?Set auto flaps after take off and the plane will auto trim itself for level flight, around 1g I notice sometimes. Edited June 3, 2018 by sze5003 Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9 13900K-NZXT Kraken X73 AIO | 32GB DDR5 G Skill Neo 6600mhz | 2TB Sk Hynix P41 Platinum nvme |1TB Evo 970 Plus nvme | OCZ Trion 150 960GB | 256GB Samsung 830 | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | Gigabyte OC 4090 | Phanteks P600S | 1000W MSI MPG A1000G | LG C2 42 Evo 3840x2160 @ 120hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_sukebe Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Set full flaps after take off and the plane will auto trim itself for level flight, around 1g I notice sometimes. Just so I understand, you're suggesting: - On the deck, we reset trim (FCS button), half flaps, t/o trim button, then + some additional trim depending upon weight - Post take off, enable "full" flaps. Why full and not auto? That sounds a little odd, unless you mean that we should enable full, THEN switch to auto. I'm assuming that in normal flight that we should run in auto. Apologies if I'm sounding a bit thick. System: 9700, 64GB DDR4, 2070S, NVME2, Rift S, Jetseat, Thrustmaster F18 grip, VPC T50 stick base and throttle, CH Throttle, MFG crosswinds, custom button box, Logitech G502 and Marble mouse. Server: i5 2500@3.9Ghz, 1080, 24GB DDR3, SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sze5003 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) Just so I understand, you're suggesting: - On the deck, we reset trim (FCS button), half flaps, t/o trim button, then + some additional trim depending upon weight - Post take off, enable "full" flaps. Why full and not auto? That sounds a little odd, unless you mean that we should enable full, THEN switch to auto. I'm assuming that in normal flight that we should run in auto. Apologies if I'm sounding a bit thick.Not full, auto flaps. Sorry. Was thinking about landings earlier. No worries we are all here learning one thing or another. I usually do the fcs bit test before take off too, then I set half flaps, take off, gear up and auto flaps. The cold start tutorial misison goes over this too. Edited June 3, 2018 by sze5003 Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9 13900K-NZXT Kraken X73 AIO | 32GB DDR5 G Skill Neo 6600mhz | 2TB Sk Hynix P41 Platinum nvme |1TB Evo 970 Plus nvme | OCZ Trion 150 960GB | 256GB Samsung 830 | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | Gigabyte OC 4090 | Phanteks P600S | 1000W MSI MPG A1000G | LG C2 42 Evo 3840x2160 @ 120hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LhuanDula Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) More thoughts on that matter; I found that when gear down, full flaps and air brake on, it is not possible to trim the aircraft in pitch (elev value does not change). However, as soon as I retract the airbrake, trimming works as expected. Don’t know if the problem lies in AB supposed to be retracted automatically when in dirty config or just trim bug. Any of you able to reproduce this? Edited June 3, 2018 by LhuanDula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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