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Old 09-23-2020, 05:37 PM   #131
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It’s like a train wreck that I can’t look away from.
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Old 09-23-2020, 06:28 PM   #132
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I don't disagree with that. Lack of feel is a huge problem with gaming in general. This is why sim pilots typically do better than real pilots.

On the video in question, it was my first time in the Tomcat. I did not (As with most DCS videos I make) intend to simulate anything. I fly them for fun. I crash a lot. If I flew anything in real life as I do in the game, I wouldn't be here today.

I understood it was your first time in the simulated Tomcat, i took this example to remark the huge difficulties to percept g force inside the simulated Tomcat, especially during an hard dogfight. With others simulated jet, who have the g-limiter and g-indicator, there are much less difficulties to respect imposed limits.



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To your point about having to look inside - I fly a real jet right now with no HUD. I'm constantly having to crosscheck inside the cockpit for altitude, airspeed, and G forces during a fight. That argument is invalid.

I just told that with a real jet is more easy to keep under control g force so i believe you. The problem is with simulated jet.



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No, you're trying to convince everyone why you're right and we're wrong. It's a dead horse.
Yes, that's true, i seemed to have always been clear about this but i also think i wrote my arguments, right or wrong they are, but i also would like to learn more.





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You bet. Will you be participating in the tournament?

This weekend i'm away with my family but i would have liked to have participated, even though i think i would have been eliminated very soon
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Old 09-24-2020, 12:30 PM   #133
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Hey Guys , Anyone else waiting for the Email for the Tournament form Givergy ? to register your aircraft and check your slot time ?
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Old 09-24-2020, 04:21 PM   #134
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Hi, where could we get the mission?


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Old 09-24-2020, 05:07 PM   #135
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should have been emailed to you!
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Old 09-25-2020, 10:31 PM   #136
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I understood it was your first time in the simulated Tomcat, i took this example to remark the huge difficulties to percept g force inside the simulated Tomcat, especially during an hard dogfight. With others simulated jet, who have the g-limiter and g-indicator, there are much less difficulties to respect imposed limits.






I just told that with a real jet is more easy to keep under control g force so i believe you. The problem is with simulated jet.





Yes, that's true, i seemed to have always been clear about this but i also think i wrote my arguments, right or wrong they are, but i also would like to learn more.








This weekend i'm away with my family but i would have liked to have participated, even though i think i would have been eliminated very soon
Yet another guy criticizing the rules who isn't even showing up. Why are you spending this much energy on a pointless argument?

"I just told that with a real jet is more easy to keep under control g force so i believe you. The problem is with simulated jet."

And the real fighter pilot who flies an aggressor T-38 (I think) is actually telling you that in an actual real life dogfight he cannot truly identify g forces past 5 gs reliably. He has to look into the cockpit to doublecheck his accelerometer so he doesn't over g the jet while fighting. He's doing this in real life, under physical g strain, with a big helmet on.

I think we can move our heads a fraction using head trackers to see inside the cockpit.
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Old 09-26-2020, 12:10 AM   #137
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And the real fighter pilot who flies an aggressor T-38 (I think) is actually telling you that in an actual real life dogfight he cannot truly identify g forces past 5 gs reliably. He has to look into the cockpit to doublecheck his accelerometer so he doesn't over g the jet while fighting. He's doing this in real life, under physical g strain, with a big helmet on.

Apart from the DSW going on this has been interesting in some ways. I grew up as a sim pilot (with 20/400 vision they don't say no, they fall on the floor laughing) and I've always wondered how much seat of the pants feeling makes a difference. As I suspected, a lot. I had no idea it wasn't a panacea.


It would be nicer if these little tidbits could be learned without the rest of it.



But, as I explained to GB, sim pilots are far superior. Just today at 15 miles from a head-on merge with a bad guy I got one last drink of tea before putting my mug back in the cup holder. It never spills a drop, even at 7G.


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