[ZHeN]

even with same laser code ?

[levanoga]

A laser code is a laser pulse repetition frequency (PRF) and those are classified.

The chances of Northrop Grumman to share these with the Kamov Design Bureau or the company that made the Shkval system are zero.

Also keep in mind that the SU-25T Shkval in DCS is total guesswork and should not have the LST capability.

[Darkwolf]

The chances of Northrop Grumman to share these with the Kamov Design Bureau or the company that made the Shkval system are zero

DCS world isn't the real world. Come play online and you'll notice russian A10C and US Kamov-50. Is that a bug too ?

It's sad it has been remove, because it remove JTAC capability too.

[Oberfeldwebel Elmo]

Russians didn't use JTAC with the frogs. They could use smoke to mark targets and visually talk them on similar to how the a10 is with gun runs. Sad as it is and sick that we can't use it but brings us closet to how the reality is. Funny tho how they squash this bug with ease but other more important issues aren't looked into.

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[ZHeN]

Originally Posted by levanoga

Also keep in mind that the SU-25T Shkval in DCS is total guesswork and should not have the LST capability.

that's right, no LST
but laser spot is what missile needs, not for weapons management system
what if you launch your Kh-25ML missile manually (Alt+W) in the direction of lased target ? an it will be in the seeker's FOV ?

Originally Posted by Oberfeldwebel Elmo

Russians didn't use JTAC with the frogs. They could use smoke to mark targets and visually talk them on similar to how the a10 is with gun runs. Sad as it is and sick that we can't use it but brings us closet to how the reality is. Funny tho how they squash this bug with ease but other more important issues aren't looked into.

they actually did use JTACs in Afghanistan with basic Su-25. JTACs (BOMAN vehicle based on BTR-70/80) were lasing targets for Kh-29L & Kh-25ML


you can see "Klyon-PS" laser designator from Su-25 mounted on top of BTR

[Oberfeldwebel Elmo]

So they took the laser desg from the frog and bmp mounted it? Or other way around?

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[ZHeN]

that's right
they took laser designator from the frog simple as that

[levanoga]

Originally Posted by ZHeN

that's right, no LST
but laser spot is what missile needs, not for weapons management system
what if you launch your Kh-25ML missile manually (Alt+W) in the direction of lased target ? an it will be in the seeker's FOV ?

It is possible but requires very good ground-air coordination, strict safety procedures with strict final attack headings as the missile can go where it detects the strongest laser beam - the source. I don't think this is even simulated in DCS.

[Oberfeldwebel Elmo]

Originally Posted by ZHeN

that's right
they took laser designator from the frog simple as that

See that's what had confused me because the Russian doctrine never slated laser targeting during that time so I guess then it was an adaptation for Afghanistan

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[Sneak69]

So buddy lase is patched out for the SU25t?