[NEED TRACK REPLAY]Difficulties picking up J-11 with radar

Hello,

I had a lot of difficulties trying to find a J-11 flying in front of me. I could see him visually, but my radar couldn't pick him up, no matter what settings i tried (PRF, scan height and bar setting) Even on his dead six, i couldn't spot him on the radar. Ended up shooting a "Maddog" which killed him.

There were more people complaining having the same issues with the J-11. Other aircraft like Mirages, Tomcats, SU33s showed up on the radar screeen and could be engaged.

First it happened on Growling Sidewinder's server, yesterday had the same on 104th Phoenix server.

I dont have a trackfile (dont know how to get one), but as more people reported having the same issues, i thought it was worth mentioning it here

Both servers had Caucasus map up and running, ping was also normal for me

Hello,

 

 

I had a lot of difficulties trying to find a J-11 flying in front of me. I could see him visually, but my radar couldn't pick him up, no matter what settings i tried (PRF, scan height and bar setting) Even on his dead six, i couldn't spot him on the radar. Ended up shooting a "Maddog" which killed him.

 

 

There were more people complaining having the same issues with the J-11. Other aircraft like Mirages, Tomcats, SU33s showed up on the radar screeen and could be engaged.

 

 

First it happened on Growling Sidewinder's server, yesterday had the same on 104th Phoenix server.

 

 

I dont have a trackfile (dont know how to get one), but as more people reported having the same issues, i thought it was worth mentioning it here

 

 

Both servers had Caucasus map up and running, ping was also normal for me

Is it possible they were jamming? Just a thought, nothing definitive.

Cheers,

Don

It was definitely within 10 miles, so if he was jamming, the radar should have burned through already.

Forgot to mention that even with AACQ modes, it still wouldn't lock him up

Odd... I've recently killed J-11's online with aamram's, but it was fairly close in (WVR). I can't remember if I jousted with that one, but I'm pretty sure I have.

Is there a way to "shrink" the track, because its to big to attach atm, or to save a a specific time stamp?

(sry if its a dumb question)

Hello,

 

 

I had a lot of difficulties trying to find a J-11 flying in front of me. I could see him visually, but my radar couldn't pick him up, no matter what settings i tried (PRF, scan height and bar setting) Even on his dead six, i couldn't spot him on the radar. Ended up shooting a "Maddog" which killed him.

 

 

There were more people complaining having the same issues with the J-11. Other aircraft like Mirages, Tomcats, SU33s showed up on the radar screeen and could be engaged.

 

 

First it happened on Growling Sidewinder's server, yesterday had the same on 104th Phoenix server.

 

 

I dont have a trackfile (dont know how to get one), but as more people reported having the same issues, i thought it was worth mentioning it here

 

 

Both servers had Caucasus map up and running, ping was also normal for me

If you are chasing the bandit what is happening here is the bandit is hiding in the doppler spectrum because of same speed of you and the bandit. PD radars have certain filters that allow these hidden areas much like the doppler notch.

This is a radar feature and happens for all aircraft against all aircraft.

Seems its jamming.

Just did a test with Su-27 and J-11's in pairs. One with jammer, one without, headon at 100nm separation, spawning in with 2 min interval.

First forced ECM always. No result. I would pick them up at 78nm in the Hornet.

Control with F-15, and I saw no jamming on radar. Funny thing, it didnt detect them until around 50nm.

Then put AI back to just standard CAP, and started with F-15. As soon as I lock one with ECM pod, it would start jamming. I then jumped into the Hornet (air starting all btw), and scope was clean. Was face to face with them, scope clean.

But when I do it with just Hornet, lock them up so they would be jamming, I dont loose track. I can still track them when breaking lock again.

And I can repeat this as often as I like. Start in F-15, wait for them to appear, STT lock the contact on the right (has the ECM pod), and it'll start jamming. Jump in Hornet.. and nothing, even within 78nm, and all the way in to my nose.

So maybe its a late start Hornet into a jamming environment or something?

Attached the test I used.

Hornet vs Flanker ECM.miz

And just for the hell of it, I get the same result against MiG-29S. Lock it with F-15, when jamming, jump into Hornet. Scope is clean.

That sounds like the issue I had, picking them up at longer ranges, however it doesn't explain why I couldn't get him in ACM modes.

That sounds like the issue I had, picking them up at longer ranges, however it doesn't explain why I couldn't get him in ACM modes.

Isnt only at longer ranges. All the way to 0, I wouldnt get any contact on the radar in the above described jamming scenario.

So, we can call it officially a bug?