TaxDollarsAtWork Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just curious when they plan to make the data link more authentic and give it fighter to fighter & peer to peer and remove fantasy capabilities. Possibly even add the Lazur M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Probably when we get a fully modeled Su-27. It IS a simplified, ten+ year old module. Don't know why anybody expects the same level of detail the full ones have. That's kind of the whole point. 1 Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostie Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) Probably when we get a fully modeled Su-27. It IS a simplified, ten+ year old module. Don't know why anybody expects the same level of detail the full ones have. That's kind of the whole point. Yet they continue to update radar with inverted lose lock, slower radar scan update rate, wing fatigue, new dl display, remove instant vsl, remove dl from MiG29, adjust thrust values etc. Tell me again about that point. A feature, p2p datalink, works in single player, it does not work in multiplayer, that is the point. Edited October 15, 2019 by Frostie 2 "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 51st PVO "BISONS" Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackPixxel Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 No one is asking for the same level of fidelity as one of the "big" modules, but we are asking for a rough representation of their capabilities. The group datalink is an important feature of the Flanker and should as such not be overlooked. Especially since ED already said that it should be working in MP a few years ago if the planes are in the same flight. The planes still cost 15€, but all you get when buying the 2 Flankers and the MiG-29 is a copy of the same old systems that are also partially the same as the Su-25T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxDollarsAtWork Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 Probably when we get a fully modeled Su-27. It IS a simplified, ten+ year old module. Don't know why anybody expects the same level of detail the full ones have. That's kind of the whole point. It being FC3 only means the cockpit wont be clickable it does not mean the plane shouldn't have realistic modeling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 It being FC3 does not ''ONLY'' mean no clickey. It means the entire aircraft is streamlined and simplified on the systems level. That is the whole point of it, so that any boob with a harddrive can jump in and play. Entire swathes of the aircraft are simplified toward this end. If you want a fully modeled aircraft... buy a fully modeled aircraft module, not a $10-15 ''aircraft-lite'' module @@ (assuming as standalone, if pack it's like $40 for 7-8 planes, same principal) 1 Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 It can’t be impossible with all the work done on link 16. Would be a nice thing to bundle with the new Kuznetsov along with R-27 rework.... Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxDollarsAtWork Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share Posted October 17, 2019 It being FC3 does not ''ONLY'' mean no clickey. It means the entire aircraft is streamlined and simplified on the systems level. That is the whole point of it, so that any boob with a harddrive can jump in and play. Entire swathes of the aircraft are simplified toward this end. If you want a fully modeled aircraft... buy a fully modeled aircraft module, not a $10-15 ''aircraft-lite'' module @@ (assuming as standalone, if pack it's like $40 for 7-8 planes, same principal) So just because its an economy car it shouldn't come with a working engine? Impeccable logic you're a real piece of work there champ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 *buys $10-15 arcade plane* *receives extensive visual and aerodynamic upgrade... free* *shocked it is still largely an arcade plane* Yeah. One of us has a problem with logic alright. Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Zhukov, it’s suppossed to work. Even ED thinks it should work. It works in SP. There is no reason to think it’s held behind as something only full fidelity gets. It’s even advertised with the module Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Ah. I thought was ''wishlist'' feature. Ok then Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironhand Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Zhukov, it’s suppossed to work...It’s even advertised with the module Really? Where is MP datalink advertised with the module? Or is that not what you're referring to. I've looked for it but can't find it. Be nice to have, though. YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 10 Pro x64, ASUS Z97 Pro MoBo, Intel i7-4790K, EVGA GTX 970 4GB, HyperX Savage 32GB, Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SSD, 2x Seagate Hybrid Drive 2TB Raid 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 (edited) On the Su-27 store page “Updated Head Down Display (HDD) with more realistic data link and navigation mode” Oddly enough I couldn’t find it on the Su-33 store page. But you are right that it doesn’t specifically mention MP, and I guess “more realistic” can mean a lot things. I do think ED does intend to fix it eventually. However I think people will be disappointed, AFAIK it only works on Flankers in your flight(up to four.) I’m not sure if working it would connect any two Flankers, so I understand how it may not be the highest priority as it would function best in squadron Edited October 18, 2019 by AeriaGloria Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironhand Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 On the Su-27 store page “Updated Head Down Display (HDD) with more realistic data link and navigation mode” Oddly enough I couldn’t find it on the Su-33 store page. But you are right that it doesn’t specifically mention MP, and I guess “more realistic” can mean a lot things. I do think ED does intend to fix it eventually. However I think people will be disappointed, AFAIK it only works on Flankers in your flight(up to four.) I’m not sure if working it would connect any two Flankers, so I understand how it may not be the highest priority as it would function best in squadron Yes, I read that earlier. I thought you meant that there was some specific mention of MP. Anyway, "more realistic" than what? :) YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 10 Pro x64, ASUS Z97 Pro MoBo, Intel i7-4790K, EVGA GTX 970 4GB, HyperX Savage 32GB, Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SSD, 2x Seagate Hybrid Drive 2TB Raid 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Yeah, I guess it’s pretty overblown of me to have said it’s a guaranteed feature. I would agree with Zhukov if it didn’t work in SP, in that case it would be a “wishlist” feature. I guess we can only hope. The Hornet with ATFLIR and AA modes will probably be implemented first, gonna make me jealous! Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Anyway, "more realistic" than what? :) These descriptions are so old they may refer to the updates over LOMAC/FC2 versions. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldguy Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Seems like Ed has been making the FC3 aircraft more realistic all along; with the better graphics model and PFM, those are moves in the right direction. They make an interesting plane-set; people who like the "study" modules only get to do that: study. There's nothing else to do with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 There's nothing else to do with them. You think that's what they do with them IRL too? Study? You're so wrong. Pilots fly and fight with DCS aircraft not just... do I really need to explain? Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feefifofum Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 People who like the "study" modules only get to do that: study. There's nothing else to do with them. Oh boy, now you've done it... THE GEORGIAN WAR - OFFICIAL F-15C DLC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krippz Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Bump: Datalink still has "false contacts" when entering another session. You have to close the sim and relaunch it to get rid of that, it's very frustrating. The Hornet had ghost contacts for a week and it was subsequently fixed. Come on ED.... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 It happened before and I think it was fixed. Must have come back Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teknetinium Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Yet they continue to update radar with inverted lose lock, slower radar scan update rate, wing fatigue, new dl display, remove instant vsl, remove dl from MiG29, adjust thrust values etc. Tell me again about that point. A feature, p2p datalink, works in single player, it does not work in multiplayer, that is the point. +11 51st PVO Discord SATAC YouTube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satarosa Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Confirmed +11 +111 Real War, Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCs1uki5QsyuHUdvtmWJTOg?view_as=subscriber Real War, Voice Chat: https://discord.gg/UGa3KMe [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxAlfa Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 +1 ------- All the people keep asking for capabilities to be modelled.... I want the limitations to be modelled.... limitations make for realistic simulation. Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in the mud, after a bit you realize the pig likes it. Long time ago in galaxy far far away: https://www.deviantart.com/alfafox/gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxDollarsAtWork Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 ED could you please tell us how much longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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