Funnel - question for BS beta testers

Will we be able to fly the Funnel maneuver with BS? If yes, how difficult it is to do it?

Yes you can - It takes practice and excellent pedal input as well as joystick control. Side-ward flight is challenging as well; what you have seen any KA 50 on YouTube video, you can do with the outstanding FM.

Amazing! Can't wait to try it!

What's the funnel?

Flying in circle with the nose down attitude pointing in one spot.

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Since you brought it up I'll share with you that I've just been practicing this maneuver ('voronka' in russian) these days. It's indeed tricky- you must find the balance between turn rate and circle (target) center. Because when I try to increase my side speed (turn rate) and my nose no longer aims in a point, instead it 'draws' a circle on the ground whose radius is growing with the turn rate. To be honest, I still fail to see it's combat application. But yes, the FM is truly amazing- it gives the opportunity to try this and other stuff that is possible IRL, and you definitely feel that what you see is not a script.

Not only unrealistic but it would be pretty dangerous, not to metnion how hard is to make a pinpoint aim that way.

To be honest, I still fail to see it's combat application.

Black Shark is unique machine that only few in the world can afford. And it can do exotic maneuvers that might not have much of practical application. However, those maneuvers show who has the best aerodynamics in business.

Ah, the funnel! Saw this maneuver sometimes with BF2 helos:D All trys I made ends on the ground...:cry:

No, they don't ... it's just a side effect of using the double rotor; other manufacturers have chosen to -not- use that configuration. It says nothing about 'better aerodynamics'. It is, however, a neat maneuver.

However, those maneuvers show who has the best aerodynamics in business.

Not only unrealistic but it would be pretty dangerous, not to metnion how hard is to make a pinpoint aim that way.

Not only that - I'm not sure which weapons you'd end up using it with.

The rocket capacity is such that given an area target to suppress I'd just do one run and blanket it. I'd hate to do it with Vikhrs, the cannon is best used from distance . . .

Gunpods, perhaps?

Is the funnel not just an extreme demonstration of something that might be useful ?

As the main gun is stabalised/slaved to the helmet sight, couldn't you do part of quite a BIG funnel at a distance to - as Groove said - target infantry while moving, but maintaining a constant relative distance that is more in keeping with what BGB suggests.

Well, the funnel is simply not terribly practical in combat for a number of reasons - but it is doable. You could also do 'part of a funnel' but don't overestimate the Gun's ability to the pointed ... the AH-64 actually has the slaving part done right, the Ka-50 merely sights with the helmet, then moves the gun there. There's a difference, and you'll understand when you see it.

So, the "Funnel" is the chopper version of the "Cobra" . Looks cool but results in RL may vary!

It was a useful technique in BF2. Good for getting those baddies hiding behind trees.

... right, BURN THE NECROMANCER!!!

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In the first year of having BlackShark I pretty much only did aerobatic flying. Now I *finally* got myself in to combat and found it pretty darn useful to know the exact limits of the shark. The funnel in the exact execution (like you see at airshows) is not something you will see (or use ;)) in combat a lot but, having the skill to do that will help you a lot in many situations.

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I can't do properly the funnel maneuver. It is terrible difficult, or maybe I have bad joy or I don't hahve good skills yet :D

Practice flying sideways.

Once you can do that, throw in a bit of rudder to keep the nose lined up with a point on the ground.

Once you have that sussed you just have to adjust the radius of the circle to counter balance dropping the nose to actually nail something on the ground.