Realsimulator F-18CGRH is available for preorder

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Specs are similar to the F-16 version. Bluetooth, it seems, won't be officially supported since not many people use it but they include it anyway (useful if you put it on your own rod or non-Realsim bases such as those from Virpil/Thrustmaster/Brunner). Once I get my own unit I'll put up a review.

Wow - this looks awesome - wish I had a spare $630 AUD (incl shipping) to get one to Australia!

I wish the TM version was made of resin...

Will this grip work on a Virpil Warbird base? I use a Warthog grip on it now.

Will this grip work on a Virpil Warbird base? I use a Warthog grip on it now.

It should but you have to be in Bluetooth mode to access all the 64 DX inputs (actually 512 since it has 8 memory slots). I don’t have it so cannot confirm but my F16 grip works that way. I plan to use mine with the WarBRD base also.

Honest question and no intend on trolling here, but what makes this grip so much better than the Thrustmaster equivalent? Price certainly is a lot higher, so there must be some kind of quality difference.

Honest question and no intend on trolling here, but what makes this grip so much better than the Thrustmaster equivalent? Price certainly is a lot higher, so there must be some kind of quality difference.

Realsimulator normally makes products for military and commercial institutions, and occasionally they would offer home version of these. Keep in mind that these are niche products not meant for the mass. Why do they price it high?

1. Brand Reputation: Self-explanatory. They're also known for making high-end devices and price them as such. Same reason why some rudder pedals would cost $600-700.

2. Quality: Craftsmanship. High density resin material, not cheap plastic. Exact replica of the F-18E grip in outer appearance (although they add 5-way switches to everything).

3. Features: has bluetooth and can function wirelessly without a base with its own gyro sensor. 500+ DX inputs in bluetooth mode or when connected to their FSSB R3L base, so you can bind lots of lots of commands. Can be powered from battery pack or bases that use similar connection to Thrustmaster. All settings are saved in the grip.

4. Limited production: These aren't meant to be mass market devices that come straight out of Chinese factories. If you don't make a lot at a time, the price would stay high.

5. Support: Do you know of any company that would provide 1:1 video call to help fix your problem? They're one of those.

It should but you have to be in Bluetooth mode to access all the 64 DX inputs (actually 512 since it has 8 memory slots). I don’t have it so cannot confirm but my F16 grip works that way. I plan to use mine with the WarBRD base also.

Fantastic....Thank You for Reply!!:thumbup:

Realsimulator F-18CGRH is available for preorder

I have the F16SGRH CE and it’s the best grip I’ve ever used. I knew this Hornet grip would be a day 1 order for me.

I’ve been checking their site two or three times a week for this.

Ordered.

Edit: I should add that I use the F-16 grip on both the FSSB R3L for the Viper, and in the T-50CM2 base via Bluetooth for the Warthog. No problems with either.

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For some reason I can not pre-order...won't connect to Paypal for some reason?

No PayPal issues here. The only issue I had was realizing that I needed to create a new account since they have a new web store. My last order from them was in January.

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OK..I'll try creating a account

No PayPal issues here. The only issue I had was realizing that I needed to create a new account since they have a new web store. My last order from them was in January.

 

 

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So their Force sensing really works with the F16 properly? That is the biggest issue I have had with the F16 in DCS is the fact that I have to run crazy negative curves with my VKB or Warthog stick to get the plane to respond and not feel like a lazy 747. So this keeps me from flying it at all. The negative curves then cause all sorts of issues with fine adjustment in flight with AAR.

I use no curves at all with my grip and FSSB base. I only use a dead zone of 2 to account for unintentional jitter from muscle twitches.

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Got my order in. This was an easy decision for me. I have a F16SGRH and the product is really that good.

Realsimulator F-18CGRH is available for preorder

I’m working on setting up my F16SGRH/T-50CM2 and T-50CM throttle for use in X-Wing and TIE Fighter this weekend.

Seeing the new Squadrons trailer inspired me to break these out again. It’ll give me something to do until my Monstertech rig comes.

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So their Force sensing really works with the F16 properly? That is the biggest issue I have had with the F16 in DCS is the fact that I have to run crazy negative curves with my VKB or Warthog stick to get the plane to respond and not feel like a lazy 747. So this keeps me from flying it at all. The negative curves then cause all sorts of issues with fine adjustment in flight with AAR.

The FSSB R3L is an electronic base, it is not limited by traditional cams and springs whose sizes are fixed and can be a pain to swap and even then might not give the feel that you want. You can customize the force sensitivity by changing the values in the software (and much more, including more sophisticated functions such as roll assist, directional angle, etc).

Plane not responsive enough? You can easily reduce the force sensitivity setting to change that. Just dial in any number you want, even in decimal points. You can also make the F-16C behave like a paper plan, just one light touch would flip the plane right away. Of course this isn’t realistic, but it is something that can be done.

Realsimulator F-18CGRH is available for preorder

I’m working in setting up my F16SGRH/T-50CM2 and T-50CM throttle for use in X-Wing and TIE Fighter this weekend.

 

Seeing the new Squadrons trailer inspired me to break these out again. It’ll give me something to do until my Monstertech rig comes.

 

 

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Oh yeah I can’t wait to play that one, especially in VR.

The FSSB R3L is an electronic base, it is not limited by traditional cams and springs whose sizes are fixed and can be a pain to swap and even then might not give the feel that you want. You can customize the force sensitivity by changing the values in the software (and much more, including more sophisticated functions such as roll assist, directional angle, etc).

 

Plane not responsive enough? You can easily reduce the force sensitivity setting to change that. Just dial in any number you want, even in decimal points. You can also make the F-16C behave like a paper plan, just one light touch would flip the plane right away. Of course this isn’t realistic, but it is something that can be done.

Well I think I am going to have to get one just for the Viper since I love the plane but have ended up sticking with the Hornet and F14 since they do not feel lazy and I do not have to use any curves or deadzones with my VKB stick.

I just found a video of the R3 and how much it actually moves and that seems pretty realistic and will add a lot to flying the F16.

I think I will just get the standard F16 grip since it is available it looks like.

I can see the one issue will be knowing the limits just like with new F16 pilots and how much pressure you need to apply for full deflection and getting max G etc. I have heard several F16 pilots say they basically end up going out there and just try to rip the stick off to be sure they get max performance.lol

Not an issue with the R3L base. It both lights up and beeps to let you know both when you’re approaching max force, and when you reach it.

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Actually, if your F-16C rolls like a turd rather than using negative curve it is better to decrease the X saturation to something like 75% (steepen the slope). This can change the behavior significantly. Same concept applies to the pitch, but I find the pitch responsiveness is fine the way it is at least on my WarBRD base. You might not even need a Realsim base, unless you want to play with force sensing mechanics.

With the Harrier and Hornet on my setup, it is the opposite. Since I use an extension tube with it, which is not recommended by Virpil, the control is a bit loose especially with a heavy Thrustmaster grip on it. Reducing the Y saturation on pitch and roll to 80% (flatten the slope) gives me tighter control. The long throw of the stick helps tremendously with hovering, VTOL, etc. compared to doing it without extension. I barely need to trim since I can just hold the stick in place without applying much force.

Really want to order one, as I want to support the company, such great guys and fantastic service.....however, I already have the TM version and a spare from my Winwing throttle....hmmmm....

Would to sell the other 2.......do you think they would go easy?

Unfortunately, it is not compatible with my VKB base which I bought 3 months ago and made no sense to me to use it with a FSSB.

I use no curves at all with my grip and FSSB base. I only use a dead zone of 2 to account for unintentional jitter from muscle twitches.

 

 

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For that, you should use FSSB's 'break force' option instead, it is similar to a dead zone but far better.

I’ll take a look at that, thanks.

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I might be getting a test unit soon *fingers crossed*.