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Old 07-25-2017, 08:37 AM   #1
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Hi,
July 2017. Disappointed by avionics of the Mig21Bis, I finally still have time to fly in DCS and am looking to learn a specific module which can not disappoint me as the Mig did (ARC and radar problems, for example).
Could you give me advices about which module (at this time July 2017) has as few bugs as possible ? I'm playing only SP.
I think about A10C but perhaps am wrong.
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Old 07-25-2017, 09:04 AM   #2
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A-10C is one of the oldest, and hence also one of the most feature complete and bug free modules. So I guess it would fit the bill. Though it hasn't got the hottest flight performance ever, and with all the high tech it may feel more like operating a computer system than flying an aircraft. But this entirely depends on subjective tastes, and what you expect out of your module.

If you want an aircraft with similar age and performance with the MiG, Belsimtek's F-5E is also one of the most stable and well made modules in DCS currently, despite being relatively new. However, its systems are overall less complex than the MiG-21Bis, especially the navigation part.

If you are into helos, Ka-50, Mi-8 and UH-1 are all great as well, though the Huey's engine temperature limits aren't modeled. Belsimtek seems to be in process of implementing it however, and aside from that it is an excellent module.

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Old 07-25-2017, 10:12 AM   #3
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L-39 is a pleasure to fly and it is almost completely free of bugs.
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Old 07-25-2017, 10:21 AM   #4
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I enjoy Mig-21bis. It is the toughest module to master, and most difficult to land correctly, but is a very satisfying module.
IMHO, the most bug free modules are A-10C and KA-50.
As in real life , no module (like real aircraft) is free from defects and shortcomings. Part of the fun, and growwl, is to defeat the defects and make them your friends.
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Old 07-25-2017, 10:25 AM   #5
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Those modules from my signature that have "released" status don't have any major bugs, so you should be pretty satisfied. Except Mirage 2000 - treat that one as beta.

You can find minor issues in each of them, but it more comes down to what kind of module you want, modern or vintage, A2A or A2G, fast or slow.

Of course that's in the stable 1.5.7 version. In the 2.1 alpha most modules have some issues.
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Old 07-25-2017, 01:28 PM   #6
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Answers are all over the place and some are a bit over-ambitious. It depends on how you enjoy your sim flight time. I know you said SP, but there is more to it than that. Narrow down the type of airframe, then think about what you want to do with it (WW2, combat, free-flight, etc.).

For free flight aircraft, the L-39 is truly almost bug free. It also has some of the best DCS performance. There are no prop/rotor animations or advanced avionics that slow FPS. Remove the gun sight and you have the single best sight-seeing plane in DCS.


Good luck and enjoy,

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Old 07-25-2017, 02:21 PM   #7
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Thanks a lot to all of you.
Well I'm fond of WWII warplanes but I don't have Normandy map or 2.0 version for now ; I feel it's a bit early for WWII in DCS and keep on Il2 1946 or Il2 Clodo with Team Fusion mod for this era.
In DCS, I love 1970's and modern machines. I think I like a bit more Soviet ones too. Perhaps it makes me think about my youngest flights in front of a PC (Flight of the Intruder by Microprose and Su27 by SSI...)
All in all, that's why I had been attracted by the Mig21 bis module. I seemed to me that there was plenty of avionics to master but with a "flight feeling and clunky ergonomics" still there. A few years ago the A10C gave me the "flying a computer feeling" indeed. For the Ka50, I remembered giving up when it was about giving orders to wingmen and mastering the multiple autopilot modes.
About the bugs, I'm really ready to have avionics defaults modelised (as in mig15 or Mig 21 modules) but I will not give time to master them if it's because of a module bug and not "real".
I stick with 1.5.7. version for now.
I almost forgot to say that plenty of training missions and a campaign were a positive thing for me, as in the Mig21 module. The Mig15 disappointed me for this reason (no free campaign and training missions a bit scarce).
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Old 07-25-2017, 02:53 PM   #8
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UH-1 and Mi-8 have pretty good campaigns available (both included & extra download), so I would suggest one of those. For F-5 there's only extra DLC campaign for NTTR, but it's the closest to MiG-21 complexity.
L-39 has the least content available, apart from sightseeing and training there's not much to do with that module. I think I've seen one campaign for it in the downloads section, but there's nothing from ED.
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Old 07-25-2017, 03:32 PM   #9
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The UH1 and Mi8 are "multi crew" (I don't speak about the long awaited spec) : are these modules still playable or enjoyable solo ?
At least with Ka50 or A10C I know that I should be able to "do all these things myself", whereas in multi crew crafts, I can still blame that I'm only one person
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Old 07-25-2017, 04:04 PM   #10
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Both modules are playable and fun in solo. In fact, they have to be. Multicrew functionality is still in development for the Mi-8 and UH-1 as are some other features (like overheat engine damage for the Huey). I wouldn't say you're getting an absolutely complete product with any of these two. For the most part the aircraft themselves fly and work well, but some of the features "around" them are either not there yet (multicrew) or need some further development (sling-loading, troop transport, interactive checklists). I've spent more hours in the Hip than in any other module and I can honestly recommend it, but if you're not willing to wait for some last few features to be wrapped up, maybe try something else.

Give the Ka-50 another go perhaps? Since you already own it. There's plenty of content (missions, campaigns) and once you get to know it a little bit, the systems aren't THAT complex and automised... nothing like in the A-10C. Deep down it's still an 80s machine.
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