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Old 11-16-2018, 01:37 PM   #11
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X56 Rhino. Well broken in and well adjusted. Pitch curve is set to 35. In all other modules it is 25, and is precise to hover UH-1H and KA-50, and is pretty good with AV-8B.
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Old 11-16-2018, 03:15 PM   #12
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No issue to land or fly the Fulcrum from my side, maybe Hotas setup and curves?
I use the Virpil t50 and throttle with no curves at all only and a deadzone of 2
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Old 11-16-2018, 03:24 PM   #13
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Then you just need to practice more and not do the things that are getting you killed, pretty much all there is to it. The gist of these threads is that the MiG-29 is appreciably different from other similar aircraft. Ok, so then work on that basis and go from there.
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Old 11-17-2018, 08:32 AM   #14
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Never be a problem for me in landing the Fulcrum, just knowing that You must touch with 10 degrees and 300Kph, flare a bit and the trick is done...
Also I never use curve on stick, I'm too lazy to try it

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Old 11-17-2018, 09:35 AM   #15
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I also don’t use any curve on the pitch axis for the MiG-29 and it made the world of difference for me.
Defiantly worth a try for anyone having trouble with pitch control during take off and landing.
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Old 11-17-2018, 06:56 PM   #16
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https://youtu.be/78sMimTMFYg

The trick is to get her dirty and stabilized as you make your downwind turn. Use the ILS whenever possible. It is really well done.

Hope it helps!
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Old 11-18-2018, 01:41 AM   #17
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I find too much curve to be harmful as it makes up for exponentially less travel with transitions to exponentially more travel halfway through
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Old 11-18-2018, 04:45 AM   #18
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I don't know if curves, per se, are that much of an issue. I personally use a pitch curve of around 15 in all aircraft. I find it helpful rather than a hindrence. OTOH, I've never even considered using a curve much higher than that. So anything beyond that I really can't comment on.

As far as the MiG-29 is concerned, it's low speed handling does, at times, seem a bit odd. But it's far from being a show stopper. The odd thing about landing it is that you can't do it "by the book" from the last few meters or so down because it simply gets sucked down to the runway. You can't "float " it as the manual seems to describe. And, although the manual notes that "...The aircraft will land softly at a speed of 260...250 km/h with a landing angle of attack of about 11°", you can't (or at least I can't) land softly at anything less than 270 even at minimum weight.
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Old 11-18-2018, 10:03 AM   #19
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I found that in Fulcrum curves are not that necessary at least with my T.Flight HOTAS X. When faced with pitching precission problems at low speed I tried increasing curves at first from 40 even up to 70. It did not help much. I tried no curves instead and it was OK while i.e. F-15C is not flyable without.
To achieve ground effect float the aircraft should be able to fly level in landing configuration at set speed and weight. If it needs +11° AOA for 260kph and 0 VV then it simply cannot hold itself there and TD safely. Question is does it match RL flight charts?
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Old 11-18-2018, 10:38 AM   #20
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The odd thing about landing it is that you can't do it "by the book" from the last few meters or so down because it simply gets sucked down to the runway. You can't "float " it as the manual seems to describe. And, although the manual notes that "...The aircraft will land softly at a speed of 260...250 km/h with a landing angle of attack of about 11°", you can't (or at least I can't) land softly at anything less than 270 even at minimum weight.

That is most likely because, unfortunately none of the FC3 aircraft has ground effect implemented (demonstrable fact).


If ground effect was implemented, in MiG-29 for a given AOA at touchdown the speed would easily be like 15 Km/h lower.
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