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Old 10-13-2019, 02:07 PM   #3801
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I normally start the WMR portal, start SteamVR and then DCS, just so I see everything is ready but if I start SteamVR it will fire up WMR and if I start DCS in VR mode it will start up everything.
Do you start up the normal W10 WMR portal or the one inside Steam after starting and logging into it? Do you start WMR without a connected headset and then connect it manually?

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Personally, I just put my headset on, click on the virtual desktop, and click on the DCS shortcut. DCS loading handles starting steam VR. Generally haven't had any issues doing it this way.
The normal WMR desktop option or virtual desktop as a separate app? Doesn't the WMR portal for Steam build on top of SteamVR or is it the other way around? Also, SteamVR isn't a standalone program as far as I know, how the f can the Steam process end itself but SteamVR is then still running I'm asking myself? SteamVR needs Steam to run no?

I have no DCS at the moment, only testing the unit. So I don't know the "normal" starting sequence a DCS start triggers. Trying to find out if the errors are coming from the hardware/software and HMD/rest of the systems side.

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Old 10-13-2019, 03:08 PM   #3802
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Do you start up the normal W10 WMR portal or the one inside Steam after starting and logging into it? Do you start WMR without a connected headset and then connect it manually?
The W10 WMR portal.

The headset is permanently connected
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Old 10-13-2019, 03:15 PM   #3803
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Myself; (1) start steamvr and it will also automatically start WMR, (2) start all the other programs such as...voice attack, teamspeak, SRS, etc., (3) put on my HMD and start DCS.
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Old 10-13-2019, 03:22 PM   #3804
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I don't know if this ts the correct waw to start DCS. My Reverb is always connected to my PC when I start the PC WMR automatically starts if I'm not going to use the Reverb I just minimize WMR. If I'm going to use the head set I just move around it to get it started then I start Steam then click on library, Software select WMR and run it. When every thing is running I click on DCS, X Plane 11 or anything else put the headset on and away I go.
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Old 10-13-2019, 03:24 PM   #3805
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Do you start up the normal W10 WMR portal or the one inside Steam after starting and logging into it? Do you start WMR without a connected headset and then connect it manually?


The normal WMR desktop option or virtual desktop as a separate app? Doesn't the WMR portal for Steam build on top of SteamVR or is it the other way around? Also, SteamVR isn't a standalone program as far as I know, how the f can the Steam process end itself but SteamVR is then still running I'm asking myself? SteamVR needs Steam to run no?

I have no DCS at the moment, only testing the unit. So I don't know the "normal" starting sequence a DCS start triggers. Trying to find out if the errors are coming from the hardware/software and HMD/rest of the systems side.

WRM's house opens when I put the headset on. Then I just hit the windows key on my keyboard to open the menu and click on desktop to open a virtual window for my windows desktop. I have a desktop shortcut for DCS, I click that and start DCS which starts steamvr, I never go to the steamvr house.
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Old 10-13-2019, 03:30 PM   #3806
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I don't know if this ts the correct waw to start DCS. My Reverb is always connected to my PC when I start the PC WMR automatically starts if I'm not going to use the Reverb I just minimize WMR. If I'm going to use the head set I just move around it to get it started then I start Steam then click on library, Software select WMR and run it. When every thing is running I click on DCS, X Plane 11 or anything else put the headset on and away I go.
I always close out of wmr if im not using it. Windows is known to funny things with wmr anyway so I don't want to have it running all the time. Plus I'm afraid it keeps the headset on.
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Old 10-13-2019, 05:56 PM   #3807
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Hi.

Just a short question:

Do the reflections of the sea in the Reverb look anything like the ones on a monitor?

I tested the Rift S some time ago and found, that the sea looks very boring. Reflections of the sun were almost non-existent and general look of the sea was far from realistic.

On the other hand, the view on a monitor looks pretty much stunning and coming back to the
boat from a flight with the sun being very low is always a bit of a highlight for me.

That was one reason, why I preferred to give back the Rift S and that would be a reason for me, to not go to VR if I had to give that up...

Thx.
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Old 10-13-2019, 06:05 PM   #3808
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Hi.



Just a short question:



Do the reflections of the sea in the Reverb look anything like the ones on a monitor?



I tested the Rift S some time ago and found, that the sea looks very boring. Reflections of the sun were almost non-existent and general look of the sea was far from realistic.



On the other hand, the view on a monitor looks pretty much stunning and coming back to the

boat from a flight with the sun being very low is always a bit of a highlight for me.



That was one reason, why I preferred to give back the Rift S and that would be a reason for me, to not go to VR if I had to give that up...



Thx.
I dunno once you fly in VR it's hard to go back to a monitor, at least for me.

This is going to depend on if your system can handle the reverb + high setting water option in graphics + shadows, and msaa. If you have any of those off or low settings of course it won't look right.

I find that the water looks fine for what I have my graphics set to and I run flat shadows and no msaa.
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Old 10-13-2019, 06:19 PM   #3809
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Do you start up the normal W10 WMR portal or the one inside Steam after starting and logging into it? Do you start WMR without a connected headset and then connect it manually?


The normal WMR desktop option or virtual desktop as a separate app? Doesn't the WMR portal for Steam build on top of SteamVR or is it the other way around? Also, SteamVR isn't a standalone program as far as I know, how the f can the Steam process end itself but SteamVR is then still running I'm asking myself? SteamVR needs Steam to run no?

I have no DCS at the moment, only testing the unit. So I don't know the "normal" starting sequence a DCS start triggers. Trying to find out if the errors are coming from the hardware/software and HMD/rest of the systems side.
I removed the nose seal on my Reverb, so I just put the headset on, peek down my nose at my monitor, and double-click on the DCS icon on the monitor like I normally would. All of the Steam stuff will load automatically as DCS is starting. WMR usually starts as soon as I plug my headset in. I don't keep it plugged in all the time. Then I usually have to peek down my nose again to minimize the SteamVR window that usually pops up right in the middle of the monitor screen. If I don't do that, the parts of the DCS screen that it covers up will be mysteriously unclickable in VR, even though they look like there is nothing in the way.
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Old 10-13-2019, 06:22 PM   #3810
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Hi.

Just a short question:

Do the reflections of the sea in the Reverb look anything like the ones on a monitor?

I tested the Rift S some time ago and found, that the sea looks very boring. Reflections of the sun were almost non-existent and general look of the sea was far from realistic.

On the other hand, the view on a monitor looks pretty much stunning and coming back to the
boat from a flight with the sun being very low is always a bit of a highlight for me.

That was one reason, why I preferred to give back the Rift S and that would be a reason for me, to not go to VR if I had to give that up...

Thx.
The water looks fantastic in the Reverb. It has depth to it, and as I was skimming the surface of it in the Viper, I noticed that I could actually see the contrails of the C-17s flying above me, reflected off the water.

(edit): Just remembered something about the water in VR in the Reverb. If you get at just the right angle to the sun's reflection on the water, it will cause you to instinctively put your hand up to shade your eyes. Can't get that on a pancake.
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