Air superiority, f-15c or su-27?

f-15c or su-27 in terms of dogfighting and air superiorirty

pvp weapon restrictions so no aim120 and equivalent russian missiles and radar/rwr system?

minus pilots experience and knowledge ofc. ( say their both equal )

Very comparable, imho. It really gets down to “see first, shoot first”.

BVR the F15C. Once the dogfight starts probably the edge to the su27. imo

As others mentioned they're very similar aircraft. Edge in some things to Eagle, to Flanker in others. All things being equal you're probably looking at a mutual kill situation.

in terms of radar systems and rwr who has an edge here?

in terms of radar systems and rwr who has an edge here?

Eagle.

The APG63 was a superior radar alone, now that they've started adding AESA transmitters and other digital bus units...it's even better.

f-15c or su-27 in terms of dogfighting and air superiorirty

pvp weapon restrictions so no aim120 and equivalent russian missiles and radar/rwr system?

 

 

minus pilots experience and knowledge ofc. ( say their both equal )

So an engineering dream & not a real-world fight where anything can and will happen????:joystick:

Not hating, just feel like these conservations won't ever end & since both aircraft are still so classified not enough data other than how much each costs $...., cause pilot experience never matters it seems in these hypothetical situations, cause that's never been a deciding factor in history (Korea)

So an engineering dream & not a real-world fight where anything can and will happen????:joystick:

 

Not hating, just feel like these conservations won't ever end & since both aircraft are still so classified not enough data other than how much each costs $...., cause pilot experience never matters it seems in these hypothetical situations, cause that's never been a deciding factor in history (Korea)

It's possible that modern fighters would not have (and/or be able to use) advanced weapons. First thing to degrade in war is supply. The replenishment of weapons and repair assets is reduced, then eliminated. A plane might have to go with a reduced loadout, and after firing the one or two AMRAAMs it's down to a heater and a gun. EW can change rapidly as the war develops.

The good ol' Mk I Eyeball would still work, subject to camouflage effectiveness of the hostiles.

Personally I like the perpetual "what if" questions. Some details can be worked out and developed into a Mission, and if it's a curious situation it would be replayable.

Just for fun. :pilotfly: