[FIXED] flaregun toggle function

While doing some research for a project, I found a good answer for this in one of my books. Messerschmitt Me 109 Pt3 by Robert Michulec (AJ Press) (if you like the 109, you need all three of these! They're FANTASTIC books!)

At the bottom of page 84:

"Additional Equipment - this included the signal discharger, its ammunition, first aid kit (rifle, food rations, water, skis). Some versions were tropicalised, this including, first of all, special filters to protect the aeroplane systems from dust. Later on, with the cockpit being built up, some of the equipment was transferred to the pilot: signal pistol and the ammunition (attached around legs, below knees), life vest, map holder (on the thigh, in the flying suit)...."

Emphasis mine. I think that pretty effectively answers the question as to whether or not the signal gun was stowed when not in use. :D

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Maybe in the future when the pilot will be placed inside the cockpit we will get an extra animation with him mounting the gun in the hole.

 

This will be nice, useful and realistic.

 

However... I can't stop wondering why some people take a pride of not using a headtracking method with 6DoF... :noexpression:

 

...but, to each is own

Because in some countries like Australia you can't get track IR any longer.

The distributor went bust, I just tried to order one and no go.

So this removal option has become essential!

Any idea when it will happen?

I'd vote to keep it realistic.

You can assign button(s) to move your view insinde the cockpit, with and without TrackIR or similar.

The assignment is called "Cockpit Camera Move "direction"".

Because in some countries like Australia you can't get track IR any longer.

The distributor went bust, I just tried to order one and no go.

 

So this removal option has become essential!

 

Any idea when it will happen?

PC Aviator:

http://www.pcaviator.com.au/store/home.php?cat=265

Because in some countries like Australia you can't get track IR any longer.

The distributor went bust, I just tried to order one and no go.

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=11318&cPath=957

Any word on this feature/request ? The longer i fly the more the flare gun starts to irritate me....

+1. Make it an option in the load out while on the ground or even add it in the ground crew menu.

Don't really like the simple idea of having it hidden on/off.

Not being a head tracker ir user I have a toggle on my stick for clickable mouse cockpit on/off. When you press the middle mouse button you can move the view around to see the fuel gauge and prop pitch then switch back to a more free view using the mouse.

yeah, from what Sithspawn was saying, we seem to get the option to change it with the loadouts in the mission editor...however, this is not ideal, as then for online missions the mission designer would have to decide whether to enable or disable the flare gun...such things which dont affect competitive online play directly, the player/pilot himself should have the option to adjust to his liking and not the server/mission designer...

it was worn below the knee for a reason, I say put it back there :D

are you sure? looks like a slip fit with a quarter turn locking

It was stowable. Why not implement it like BOS where when you change flare colors you have to "take" it out out to reload the new color then put it back...so you could then leave it out if you wanted and then clear panel view

There's a butterfly screw below the pipe and the pipe is cut where the screw is. So you just plug the gun into position where you want it to be. Then tighten the screw, the gap gets thinner and squeezes the flare gun to seal it.

If it would be permanently in flight removable, there would an instrument to plug the hole, but haven't seen one yet in this thread. Data sheets, go.

I would prefer the ground crew method, but mission editor way goes fine too.

Whoever at ED was responsible for actually doing the work on this feature: Thank you!

So in the current release you can disable the Flare gun in the Mission Editor payload options. However this then means whether or not the Flare gun can be removed is at the whim of the Mission designer.

Would it not not better in the Main options screen as a 109K special command ? Perfect solution would be imo the loadout screen as an option, so you either have it for the mission or not at all.

(I posted a similar comment previously but that thread would appear to have been deleted )

This is really annoying, especially considering that the flare pistol and its shells have clearly been shown strapped to the pilot's leg.

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It's the same gun. The barrel end is specially milled to fit into the bracket. It uses a wing-nut to hold it in place.

Here's exactly what the part attached to the windscreen lower cheek looks like:

http://www.arsenal-45.de/shop/product_info.php?info=p13_----flare-gun-console---messerschmitt-bf-109-g-k----.html

ED got it wrong and it would be nice if they'd make it in-flight removable.

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I've asked a few people that restore, maintain, and fly existing airframes. I'm hoping they can help answer this definitively.

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I heard back from a restorer and it looks like the solution ED applied is likely good enough - at least without additional information. :)

"The flare gun fitted to tube in cockpit was not the same gun as in the pilot Pocket.The gun in the Pocket was used for emergency after jump in parachute,you had lack of time to open the wing nut and remove flare gun from tube if you was in emergency But some Aircraft didn,t have flare gun fitted in tube,the picked up a Me-109 from sea in Norway for some years ago.On this one flare gun was not fitted in cockpit tube but in the stowage room aft in Cockpit."

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It needs to a user preference not a Mission Builders preference.

So if it is on a Loadout option at Mission start or on the Special menu is imo the solution.