Reflected Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 I try to fly circuits by the book. Setting fine pitch before turning on final, full flaps on final, maintaining 160 kph. To do this, I need to apply a lot of power. a LOT. Then I watched this go pro video, and the guy floats in at idle, occasionally applying bursts of power, bringing the RPM up to 70% for a second. Mine is near 100% all the time, no matter how steep I come in. This is very strange. Can anyone with real life experience comment? Facebook Instagram YouTube Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reflected Posted August 11, 2018 Author Share Posted August 11, 2018 Nobody finds this strange? Facebook Instagram YouTube Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbrz Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 (edited) AcroGimp already mentioned that the flap drag is way too high. The no flap approach speed is 170km/h and the difference between an idle glide angle with the prop fully forward and fully back looks ok to me. Edited August 11, 2018 by bbrz i7-7700K 4.2GHz, 16GB, GTX 1070 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reflected Posted August 11, 2018 Author Share Posted August 11, 2018 Yeah, the prop effect seems alright after 30+ approaches. But that flap drag....when I lower them I need to open the throttle, almost like in a MIG-21...hope it will be fixed soon. Facebook Instagram YouTube Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbrz Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Getting used to the flap pitch 'issue' since it's easily manageable and the pitch effect might need only to be reduced a bit. But the flap drag is no-go. You can't even follow the real procedure, since this instructs you to climb at 160km/h with the flaps extended! i7-7700K 4.2GHz, 16GB, GTX 1070 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcroGimp Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Flap drag is WAY off but I believe they are working it along with other things. 'Gimp [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] A-4E | F-5E | F-14B | F/A-18C | AV-8B NA | UH-1H | FC3 | Yak-52 | KA-50 | Mi-8 | SA-342 i7 8700K | GTX 1070 Ti | 32GB 3000 DDR4 FAA Comm'l/Instrument, FAST Formation Wingman, Yak-52 Owner/Pilot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X93355 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 On a couple of occasions where I've left the flaps down during a touch and go irl you certainly know you've left them down :) InWin S Frame with Asus Z170 | i7-6700K @ 4.5 Water Cooled CPU and Graphics | 16GB DDR4 | GTX1070 | 240GB M.2 SSD | Warthog Hotas | MFG Crosswind | 40" Samsung 4K | CV1 | Replica MB Mk10 Ejection Seat with Gametrix 908 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reflected Posted August 15, 2018 Author Share Posted August 15, 2018 Looks like the flap drag hasn't been addressed yet... Facebook Instagram YouTube Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcroGimp Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 One way to address the current flap drag issue appears to be moving prop full forward (fine) at around the same time you deploy the flaps, this is early compared to how I fly the Yak IRL but the way DCS models prop drag/vs thrust appears to favor the fine pitch. This is NOT how I fly IRL but may be a workaround for now. 'Gimp [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] A-4E | F-5E | F-14B | F/A-18C | AV-8B NA | UH-1H | FC3 | Yak-52 | KA-50 | Mi-8 | SA-342 i7 8700K | GTX 1070 Ti | 32GB 3000 DDR4 FAA Comm'l/Instrument, FAST Formation Wingman, Yak-52 Owner/Pilot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 I just don't use the flaps at all, tbh, they're not really necessary. Land quite safely without them. Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldur Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 I use to slam the trim slider (that friction thing on the WH) fully forward when dropping flaps, which counters the nose up moment quite well. Once the changes to the FM are in, I'll probably just stop doing that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbrz Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Ouch. I wouldn't slam anything in the Yak-52 cockpit ;) I'm staying with RL procedures. Counteract the pitch up with the stick and re-trim afterwards. It doesn't take a lot of forward stick pressure to maintain the pitch attitude. And from what I've read I wouldn't expect a big change concerning the pitch up moment. i7-7700K 4.2GHz, 16GB, GTX 1070 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldur Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 OK, isn't really slamming Just pushing it forward completely while countering with the stick (which is just holding it in place as the force trying to push it forward builds up) and then applying flaps. Did it the other way round initially, but somehow ended up with that. So I put her out of trim basically and while dropping the flaps I just let go off the backstick which works quite well naturally with FFB. Without FFB you'd probably not do that. Moving spring center is something really great that I'd never drop. I just wish the stick was extended for more precision... dreaming of an FFB base for the WH... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadus Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Ouch. I wouldn't slam anything in the Yak-52 cockpit ;) I'm staying with RL procedures. Counteract the pitch up with the stick and re-trim afterwards. It doesn't take a lot of forward stick pressure to maintain the pitch attitude. And from what I've read I wouldn't expect a big change concerning the pitch up moment. But just countering the Pitch Up with my Stick won`t do for me, as the Speed drops rapidly to. They should do some additional fixing here, as some RL pilots have sqaid, that this is way off. Ryzen 5800XD - 32GB RAM - Sapphire RX 7900 XTX - VKB Stuff + MFG Crosswind Pedals Homebase: Southwest Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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