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Old 08-28-2018, 08:29 PM   #21
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Thanks for your answer, Miles! Great to have the possibility for interaction with rotary knobs.
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Old 08-28-2018, 10:14 PM   #22
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Very cool @MilesD. I look forward to seeing some demos!!
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Old 08-28-2018, 10:21 PM   #23
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I am one very interested in a solution for hotas+vr in dcs, and this seems to be a good interim solution until more advanced “hands on vr” are available.

1) What is the $50 panel addon? I dont understand its use.

2) How long will a battery charge last? I know you supply with 3 additional ones, but I am concerned about having to change them too often.

3) The sensor is an IR on the headset? Similar to the Leap Motion? In this case I have a concern as to how it will not loose track of my hands when I turn my head or have a hard to reach switch.

4) To be honest $175 is too much for me. I imagine the challenges and expenses in the tech involved, but I would not pay more than $100 for what it promises. Just being honest, but I know we live in a world were some spend $1300 on a gpu or a phone.
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Old 08-28-2018, 11:46 PM   #24
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Old 08-29-2018, 12:26 AM   #25
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Old 08-29-2018, 12:54 AM   #26
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1) What is the $50 panel addon? I dont understand its use.
The panel addon device can connect one or several metallic surfaces, such as thin aluminum sheet or metallic contact paper, and sense when finger contact is made with the surface. The surface is placed approximately where the real-world instrument panels and switch stations of the aircraft would be. Using this addon you have the option to use the pushbutton on the finger device or touch your finger to the panel to activate a mouse click.

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) How long will a battery charge last? I know you supply with 3 additional ones, but I am concerned about having to change them too often.
Current battery life is approximately 10 hours with 20% usage.


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3) The sensor is an IR on the headset? Similar to the Leap Motion? In this case I have a concern as to how it will not loose track of my hands when I turn my head or have a hard to reach switch.
I am not sure I understand your concern. When you turn your head, but keep your hand still, you will lose sight of the curser because it is no longer in your field of view, just as you would in real life. You can only see your hand when it is within your field of view. My go to test switch is the DECS switch on the AV8, It’s on the rear bulkhead of the cockpit. You have to turn almost all way around in your seat to see it. Once you see it, now you must extend your finger within your field of view to see the curser on the DECS switch.

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4) To be honest $175 is too much for me. I imagine the challenges and expenses in the tech involved, but I would not pay more than $100 for what it promises. Just being honest, but I know we live in a world were some spend $1300 on a gpu or a phone.
I can appreciate your view on the price point. I had originally thought I would be able to offer PointCTRL at a much lower price, unfortunately, production cost kept adding up.

Thanks for the questions
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Old 08-29-2018, 01:07 AM   #27
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It’s nice to see someone run with this idea. Mounting the camera to the HMD is a great idea. The biggest issue I had is the fact that without seeing them it’s hard to tell where my hands are. Check out the free camera software from this post as it is very good and will allow you to switch back and forth between the mouse and finger input.
https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=195576
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Old 08-29-2018, 08:52 AM   #28
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interested,
whats your realistic! date of availability?
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Old 08-29-2018, 04:23 PM   #29
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The panel addon device can connect one or several metallic surfaces, such as thin aluminum sheet or metallic contact paper, and sense when finger contact is made with the surface. The surface is placed approximately where the real-world instrument panels and switch stations of the aircraft would be. Using this addon you have the option to use the pushbutton on the finger device or touch your finger to the panel to activate a mouse click.
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This sounds a very interesting way of interacting with the cockpit, but I'm wondering how this will actually work. Does it mean to get full fuctionality of the cockpit you would need at least 3 of these - Left, Centre, Right?


Or can you just use one of the panels to select any side?


I understand that this is an optional extra and the finger senses will work on their own, but would be interested in seeing this additonal option in action.
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Old 08-29-2018, 07:49 PM   #30
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Thanks for your time Miles, I think this could be a great addition to improve the immersion of the game in VR. Keep us informed, please.
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