Kwiatek Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 I got Saitek Evo Force. With 1.2.7 beta stall shake is back and no fps lost. Only problem is that force fedback shake settings in axis FF tune don't save - so in every new mission i need to set it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavagai Posted December 19, 2013 Author Share Posted December 19, 2013 FPS loss was only a problem for msffb2. It has never affected other ffb sticks. Maybe I'll end up springing for a G940 hotas. P-51D | Fw 190D-9 | Bf 109K-4 | Spitfire Mk IX | P-47D | WW2 assets pack | F-86 | Mig-15 | Mig-21 | Mirage 2000C | A-10C II | F-5E | F-16 | F/A-18 | Ka-50 | Combined Arms | FC3 | Nevada | Normandy | Straight of Hormuz | Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red777 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Any news on that issue ? 1.2.7 still has fps drop with the MSFFB 2 when FFB is enabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavagai Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 Still an issue with the msffb2 drivers. On the other hand, I don't have this fps drop in any of the other flight sims I play, so there must be a way around it. P-51D | Fw 190D-9 | Bf 109K-4 | Spitfire Mk IX | P-47D | WW2 assets pack | F-86 | Mig-15 | Mig-21 | Mirage 2000C | A-10C II | F-5E | F-16 | F/A-18 | Ka-50 | Combined Arms | FC3 | Nevada | Normandy | Straight of Hormuz | Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team c0ff Posted April 2, 2014 ED Team Share Posted April 2, 2014 Another take on the fix is scheduled for 1.2.8.x Dmitry S. Baikov @ Eagle Dynamics LockOn FC2 Soundtrack Remastered out NOW everywhere - https://band.link/LockOnFC2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recoilfx Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Just tested it with 1.2.8 beta, still have the fps issue :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team c0ff Posted April 7, 2014 ED Team Share Posted April 7, 2014 not there yet. Dmitry S. Baikov @ Eagle Dynamics LockOn FC2 Soundtrack Remastered out NOW everywhere - https://band.link/LockOnFC2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavagai Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 Thanks for the continued effort. I will download the beta in order to help test it out. If it helps, DCS is the only flight sim I know of that changes the stick centering position when I trim the aircraft. That is just awesome! P-51D | Fw 190D-9 | Bf 109K-4 | Spitfire Mk IX | P-47D | WW2 assets pack | F-86 | Mig-15 | Mig-21 | Mirage 2000C | A-10C II | F-5E | F-16 | F/A-18 | Ka-50 | Combined Arms | FC3 | Nevada | Normandy | Straight of Hormuz | Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gprr Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 18/04/2014 Update Problem Hello ALL After Today's update, the FFB shaker is gone:( and FPS is improved. No cheers today GP My rig: WIN 10 64bit I7 6700k Gigabyte GTX 1080 TI 16GB RAM 650W PS MS FFB2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team c0ff Posted April 18, 2014 ED Team Share Posted April 18, 2014 After Today's update, the FFB shaker is gone:( and FPS is improved. Indeed it's a bug, but it has been fixed in the internal version about an hour ago ;) Dmitry S. Baikov @ Eagle Dynamics LockOn FC2 Soundtrack Remastered out NOW everywhere - https://band.link/LockOnFC2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gprr Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Indeed it's a bug, but it has been fixed in the internal version about an hour ago ;) Thanks c0ff Hope to get it soon:noexpression: By the way, when the Shaker is fine/low FPS:( , it is impossible to play other games like IL-2 after playing DCS because the all joystick Is inoperable ingame and a PC restart is needed:mad: Regards GP My rig: WIN 10 64bit I7 6700k Gigabyte GTX 1080 TI 16GB RAM 650W PS MS FFB2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcom Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 As I understand this is relevant for the P51 only? The A-10c module seem to be working, the work around to get the P51 FFB working is to jump into a module the FFB is working on first and then move to the P51. Hope this helps to solve the issue. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] BuddySpike Website | Live Map & Statistics BuddySpike Twitch Channel Buddyspike Discord Buddyspike Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavagai Posted April 18, 2014 Author Share Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) Thanks c0ff Hope to get it soon:noexpression: By the way, when the Shaker is fine/low FPS:( , it is impossible to play other games like IL-2 after playing DCS because the all joystick Is inoperable ingame and a PC restart is needed:mad: Regards GP Go to control panel, and then the properties menu for the msffb2. Click Ok. Then your joystick functions correctly again. Yes, DCS does something to mess with the driver for other flight sims. ---------------- Tested: I get a small delay when I press a key or press a joystick button, similar to 1.2.6 (but not nearly as bad). Is this better in the internal build where stick shake is fixed? Edited April 18, 2014 by gavagai P-51D | Fw 190D-9 | Bf 109K-4 | Spitfire Mk IX | P-47D | WW2 assets pack | F-86 | Mig-15 | Mig-21 | Mirage 2000C | A-10C II | F-5E | F-16 | F/A-18 | Ka-50 | Combined Arms | FC3 | Nevada | Normandy | Straight of Hormuz | Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team c0ff Posted April 19, 2014 ED Team Share Posted April 19, 2014 Go to control panel, and then the properties menu for the msffb2. Click Ok. Then your joystick functions correctly again. Yes, DCS does something to mess with the driver for other flight sims. This is definitely a problem in the driver. We'll search for a workaround. ---------------- Tested: I get a small delay when I press a key or press a joystick button, similar to 1.2.6 (but not nearly as bad). Is this better in the internal build where stick shake is fixed? Here's the thing: the Sidewinder's driver (or the hardware itself) a) is single-threaded b) has very slow FFB calls, up to 0.03 sec long This leads to a couple of things 1) when an application updates FFB state it can't read from the joystick 2) if it works with the joystick from the main thread, the framerate caps at about 40 fps. So either you have that FPS drop, or you have a input delay (depending on your FPS it may vary between 0.03 and 0.1 sec) Right now, all joysticks with FFB are worked with from a separate thread, I may limit this to MS FFB2 only. Also, I'll try to play with FFB update rate to find an optimal scheme. Dmitry S. Baikov @ Eagle Dynamics LockOn FC2 Soundtrack Remastered out NOW everywhere - https://band.link/LockOnFC2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gprr Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 (edited) Thanks for the support excom, gavagi and coff GP Edited April 19, 2014 by gprr My rig: WIN 10 64bit I7 6700k Gigabyte GTX 1080 TI 16GB RAM 650W PS MS FFB2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team c0ff Posted April 25, 2014 ED Team Share Posted April 25, 2014 you may want to try openbeta of 1.2.8 RC3 Dmitry S. Baikov @ Eagle Dynamics LockOn FC2 Soundtrack Remastered out NOW everywhere - https://band.link/LockOnFC2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnuke Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) @c0ff Thanks a lot. The P-51 seems to be working fine here with msffb2 (also shake and situation after crash and new plane) Edited April 25, 2014 by Cnuke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavagai Posted April 26, 2014 Author Share Posted April 26, 2014 It is perfect now! 60 fps, no button input delay, no problems when I go to fly a second sortie. Don't touch anything!:pilotfly: P-51D | Fw 190D-9 | Bf 109K-4 | Spitfire Mk IX | P-47D | WW2 assets pack | F-86 | Mig-15 | Mig-21 | Mirage 2000C | A-10C II | F-5E | F-16 | F/A-18 | Ka-50 | Combined Arms | FC3 | Nevada | Normandy | Straight of Hormuz | Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gprr Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 PERFECT !!! Thanks very very much, c0ff P-51 is fantaSticK now :thumbup: GP My rig: WIN 10 64bit I7 6700k Gigabyte GTX 1080 TI 16GB RAM 650W PS MS FFB2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red777 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 In finale version 1.2.8, i still have input delay/lag with my ms ffb2, this is very annoying. The only thing that fix it is to lock the fps to 30. Any advices ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nopileus Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Same here, massive input delay as soon as the FFB is starting to go to work. The stick itself might "only" have a second of delay, but keyboard inputs only get through once FFB forces stop coming. If it was only the 0.03 second delay c0ff mentioned i'd be perfectly fine with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavagai Posted May 12, 2014 Author Share Posted May 12, 2014 Bummer guys. We should start with your system specs so they can be compared to mine and gprr. Mine: Win 7 64bit i5 2500k @4ghz 3gb r9 280 z68 mb 8gb ddr3 (1600mhz) msffb2 ch pro pedals trackir 5 P-51D | Fw 190D-9 | Bf 109K-4 | Spitfire Mk IX | P-47D | WW2 assets pack | F-86 | Mig-15 | Mig-21 | Mirage 2000C | A-10C II | F-5E | F-16 | F/A-18 | Ka-50 | Combined Arms | FC3 | Nevada | Normandy | Straight of Hormuz | Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team c0ff Posted May 12, 2014 ED Team Share Posted May 12, 2014 In finale version 1.2.8, i still have input delay/lag with my ms ffb2, this is very annoying. The only thing that fix it is to lock the fps to 30. Any advices ? Same here, massive input delay as soon as the FFB is starting to go to work. The stick itself might "only" have a second of delay, but keyboard inputs only get through once FFB forces stop coming. If it was only the 0.03 second delay c0ff mentioned i'd be perfectly fine with it. This is very strange... Anyway, you can disable "advanced" ffb-joystick code by creating or editing the file Saved Games\DCS\Config\autoexec.cfg and placing the following line at the end of the file: input = { threaded_ffb = false } But you will get that FPS drop with MS FFB2 back again. Dmitry S. Baikov @ Eagle Dynamics LockOn FC2 Soundtrack Remastered out NOW everywhere - https://band.link/LockOnFC2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mop- Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 What was mentioned in the previous post i now have again... during the use of 1.2.7 i had also a massive Input delay, as described before... with the update 1.2.8 it was gone... but since a few days it came back during the use of my msffb2... of course only when ffb was enabled in the Options... has some1 an Explanation why this mess came back again... in the meantime i havent installed an update or anything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterH Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Well day one with my new FFB2, it is pretty awesome but... every now and then sim will FREEZE for 3-5 seconds with FFB2, anyone ever had this? May be it is due to 1.2.9 but I am pretty sure it never happened yesterday when I had Logitech plugged in. Specs : Win 8 64 i7 3630QM @ 2.40 GHz 8GB RAM Radeon 7670M Wishlist: F-4E Block 53 +, MiG-27K, Su-17M3 or M4, AH-1F or W circa 80s or early 90s, J35 Draken, Kfir C7, Mirage III/V DCS-Dismounts Script Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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