hhelikopter Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) Hi, The problem about the glass is not solved yet with UH 1 and MI 8 helicopter. I've talked BelSimTek and I've written to the leader of DCS. They think there is no any problem. UH 1 and MI 8 helicopters have no glass effect in outside view. It has been since DCS 2.5. It was not problem earlier. The glass was spectacular. Earlier / the proper glass effect / : Now / no any glass effect / : I've written the creator of module. I've told them to check Gazelle helicopter glass effect because it is perfect. Please help everyone so the error will be solved! Write your opinion on to this forum and support If you agree with me! Thank you very much, Edited September 19, 2018 by hhelikopter Windows 10 64bit / Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz / ASUS ROG STRIX Z270E Gaming /Samsung 500GB SSD 860 EVO / Corsair Vengeance LPX Red DDR-4 16GB/3000 KIT / ASUS ROG GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB UH-1H Huey / SA342 Gazelle / Mi-8MTV2 Magnificent Eight / Yak-52 / AV-8B Night Attack V/STOL / F-86F Sabre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebabil Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 this is what i see on open beta. outside is ok but inside; there is no glass at all FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhelikopter Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 As you can see on the pictures the glass is just shineing when the sun reach it. It look like there is glass effect. BUT If the sun is not reach this area it looks like there is NO glass. Windows 10 64bit / Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz / ASUS ROG STRIX Z270E Gaming /Samsung 500GB SSD 860 EVO / Corsair Vengeance LPX Red DDR-4 16GB/3000 KIT / ASUS ROG GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB UH-1H Huey / SA342 Gazelle / Mi-8MTV2 Magnificent Eight / Yak-52 / AV-8B Night Attack V/STOL / F-86F Sabre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rge75 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Yeah, I noticed the same as ebabil. From outside, you always see the glass. From inside....not really. My DCS videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJX2av4UE4xqWto3y8EZWMw [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhelikopter Posted September 20, 2018 Author Share Posted September 20, 2018 Real glass Windows 10 64bit / Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz / ASUS ROG STRIX Z270E Gaming /Samsung 500GB SSD 860 EVO / Corsair Vengeance LPX Red DDR-4 16GB/3000 KIT / ASUS ROG GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB UH-1H Huey / SA342 Gazelle / Mi-8MTV2 Magnificent Eight / Yak-52 / AV-8B Night Attack V/STOL / F-86F Sabre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebabil Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 yeah it can be better. i hope.. this one is from non updated release version. no glass at all. so i said it is better now compare to this one FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rge75 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 ...but shouldn't it have posted in the bug section? I doubt the devs will even notice it in the general thread. My DCS videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJX2av4UE4xqWto3y8EZWMw [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebabil Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 i think he already had done this https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=204468 FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebabil Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 when comparing to ka-50, it really needs some attention from the devs both for huey and mi-8 FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhelikopter Posted September 22, 2018 Author Share Posted September 22, 2018 I am sending error message and e-mail continuously to repair the error but there is NOT happend anything. Very sad this behave. The developer doesn't care about this fatal error. I think it is really scandalous! I've made some photos from my morning fly. We can see the differences... I don't know MI 8 and UH 1 why doesn't have this spectacular glass. Why don't you repair?? Windows 10 64bit / Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz / ASUS ROG STRIX Z270E Gaming /Samsung 500GB SSD 860 EVO / Corsair Vengeance LPX Red DDR-4 16GB/3000 KIT / ASUS ROG GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB UH-1H Huey / SA342 Gazelle / Mi-8MTV2 Magnificent Eight / Yak-52 / AV-8B Night Attack V/STOL / F-86F Sabre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petsild Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 An external view on the glass is weird, but worse is that there is no glass in the cockpit! MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4, Kingston 3600 MHz 64 Gb, i5 12600K, Gigabyte RTX 4090, Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus,VKB NXT Premium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebabil Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Maybe bst team doesn't have this talent or tech FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Ooor... they got other priorities right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerd Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 I would not say there is no glass in the cockpit - depending on the lighting conditions you can see shadows casted on the glass... The truth is that in the past the glass had some dirt specks, while now it is completely clean (as the muddy-glass-whiners wanted?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petsild Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Dirt is not ideal when they are not effective windshield wipers. It would be enough subtle mirroring of the cockpit back to the glass. I'll look at some footage of the actual Hue, maybe together we can figure something out. MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4, Kingston 3600 MHz 64 Gb, i5 12600K, Gigabyte RTX 4090, Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus,VKB NXT Premium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebabil Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 the problem is not the dirt. glass reflections.. FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhelikopter Posted September 22, 2018 Author Share Posted September 22, 2018 I'll look at some footage of the actual Hue, maybe together we can figure something out. Windows 10 64bit / Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz / ASUS ROG STRIX Z270E Gaming /Samsung 500GB SSD 860 EVO / Corsair Vengeance LPX Red DDR-4 16GB/3000 KIT / ASUS ROG GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB UH-1H Huey / SA342 Gazelle / Mi-8MTV2 Magnificent Eight / Yak-52 / AV-8B Night Attack V/STOL / F-86F Sabre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebabil Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 I'll look at some footage of the actual Hue, maybe together we can figure something out. check other modules too like hornet canopy FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petsild Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 (edited) I found out that the reflection is in the base already prepared, is now totally suppressed. When you first attempt to highlight, the result is not very good. It is in the package under the name UH1_glass_refl.dds. Edit: If anyone has a problem with clean glass, I created a little mirror in the cockpit. Beta version for jsgme: https://www.dropbox.com/s/jhhej11ttbgjwh8/UH-1H%20Glass%20mirror.zip Not to forget to switch in the menu special of the cockpit : Glass mirror Edited September 23, 2018 by petsild MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4, Kingston 3600 MHz 64 Gb, i5 12600K, Gigabyte RTX 4090, Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus,VKB NXT Premium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebabil Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 judging by this pic, there is still no reflection but some cracks FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petsild Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Cracks :), have you tried that at all? MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4, Kingston 3600 MHz 64 Gb, i5 12600K, Gigabyte RTX 4090, Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus,VKB NXT Premium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhelikopter Posted September 23, 2018 Author Share Posted September 23, 2018 Since the DCS 2.5 version has appeared the glass effect is not works well. There is NO glass effect. The problem is not solve with texture structure modify. Have to modify on the 3D model. The developer must solve this problem! I hope he reads this comment and will modify this problem on both of two model! Befor the Gazelle helicopter had same problem but the developer repaired it. Thank you, Windows 10 64bit / Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz / ASUS ROG STRIX Z270E Gaming /Samsung 500GB SSD 860 EVO / Corsair Vengeance LPX Red DDR-4 16GB/3000 KIT / ASUS ROG GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB UH-1H Huey / SA342 Gazelle / Mi-8MTV2 Magnificent Eight / Yak-52 / AV-8B Night Attack V/STOL / F-86F Sabre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vannipo Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 I found some glas @ my huey: But you need a very flat angle, to see the glas. The devs just have to teak 1 to 2 values. Nothing more. If I would know, where to change the 2 values for fresnel and reflection, I think could fix that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vannipo Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 I found out that the reflection is in the base already prepared, is now totally suppressed. When you first attempt to highlight, the result is not very good. It is in the package under the name UH1_glass_refl.dds. .... Sorry, but the way is NOT to tweak the texture for shading in e.g. Photoshop. The way is to tweak shader values to see more glass reflection and more fresnel. If anyone can show me the glas-shader-file, I could have a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petsild Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 The external view is not so important for me, so the Absence of the windscreen solved :) the fine dust except the track of the wiper. MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4, Kingston 3600 MHz 64 Gb, i5 12600K, Gigabyte RTX 4090, Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus,VKB NXT Premium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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