foxbat155 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 First was Yak-25 of course, but MiG-17P/PF was built in bigger numbers, 638 Yak's vs about 3000 MiG's-17P/PF/PFU. MiG was cheaper and simpler aircraft, one engine. Flight parameters were similar, Yak had bigger flight range and and better RP-6 radar ( range about 35 km ). So we can say Yak was first jet fighter with radar, but MiG was first mass produced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4n Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 What was RP-5 range? (to detect F-86 for example, head on) DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbat155 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 About 12 km against medium size bomber, and about 8-9 km against fighter size aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4n Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Do you also know how many watts/KW RP-5 needed? And it didn't have TWS mode, or? :P (but could it lock on ECM without emitting?) DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asla36 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Do you also know how many watts/KW RP-5 needed? And it didn't have TWS mode, or? :P (but could it lock on ECM without emitting?) I don't know the exact number, but Russian radar systems tend to require more power for the same performance. TWS and HOJ without emitting are modern things. The RP-5's lock would most likely get trashed by chaff and any jammers would almost completely blind it. The 2nd, lock, antenna at least. Jammers back then were really powerful, as there weren't radar systems developed with it in mind. Low band (i.e. search) radars would see through them, but high band fire guidance radars were almost completely blinded. DCS: MiG-23 [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC] Make it happen, and take my money! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbat155 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 RP-5 have two antennas: bigger for scanning and smaller for tracking, and both working separately and simultaneously. So we can say that RP-5 have something like TWS, only different way compared to more modern doppler radars. RP-5 wave lenght is 3 and 2 cm, peak signal power is 50 kW. No info about ECM emiters lock, but considering radar's age, I think none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phant Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Does the MiG-19P collision model is based on the new damage model API (from ED)? Bye Phant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4n Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 *"is", "is the xxx collision model based on xxx?" ;) :P DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 (edited) Does the MiG-19P collision model is based on the new damage model API (from ED)? Bye Phant That is not the "new" damage model, has the "old". Surely ED need improve them before 3rd parties can "update" them. Remember the new DM will be "inserted" first into ED WW2 aircrafts as test bed. https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3157299&postcount=90 Edited March 6, 2018 by Silver_Dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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