SierraFox Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 currently my flight computer is just an "older" computer since my wife upgrading hers and it allowed me to have a flight desk set up away from my own regular PC so i dont have to worry about moving stuff around when i want to fly. Currently has an i5 4460 (3.2Ghz LGA1150 socket) and an EVGA GTX 960 (4GB Vram) installed in it but doesn't seem to be able to run flight sims at the best quality and frame rates, i can generally get away with medium setting with some fancy stuff off completely. would would benefit more from an upgrade? If i had to upgrade my CPU i would stick with the LGA1150 so i dont have to upgrade the motherboard and RAM as well, this is just a secondary computer basically dedicated for flight sims so i dont want to go too overboard on upgrading to the best of the best Saitek X-52 | Track IR 5 w/ TrackClip | DSD "Trackzilla" Button Box Flaming Cliffs 3 | F-5e | Mirage 2000 | A-10c | Harrier AV-8B [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon_ Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 (edited) DCS is more gpu intense but, at first, you need a cpu who can run at 4.2Ghz+. An i5 "K" version. What is your resolution? Edited July 1, 2017 by Demon_ Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Your processor is fairly recent ... if I were you, I'd upgrade the VGA first ... even a used GTX970 would provide about 50% more fps ... ... a change in processor, using the same motherboard, would give a much smaller improvement. I recently upgraded my core i5 for a core i7 of the same generation and DCS improved very little. For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SierraFox Posted July 1, 2017 Author Share Posted July 1, 2017 DCS is more gpu intense but, at first, you need a cpu who can run at 4.2Ghz+. A "K" version. What is your resolution? Just regular 1080p Saitek X-52 | Track IR 5 w/ TrackClip | DSD "Trackzilla" Button Box Flaming Cliffs 3 | F-5e | Mirage 2000 | A-10c | Harrier AV-8B [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 DCS is more gpu intense but, at first, you need a cpu who can run at 4.2Ghz+. An i5 "K" version. What is your resolution? I would not say that. DCS is a mix between CPU and GPU demands. There are tons of people with CPU bottleneck. Even I with this i7 at 4.4ghz on all cores have some moments of GPU load decrease due to CPU not being able to process everything. Intel Core i5-8600k + Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO | Gigabyte GTX 1070 Aorus 8G | 32GB DDR4 Corsair Vengance LPX Black 3200MHz | Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Gaming 3 | WD Black SN750 NVMe 500GB | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB | WD Green 240GB | WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA 3 | WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 3 | EVGA 650 GQ 80+ Gold | Samsung CF391 Curved 32" | Corsair 400C | Steelseries Arctis 5 --- Razer Kraken X Lite | Logitech G305 | Redragon Dyaus 2 K509 | Xbox 360 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Thrustmaster TWCS | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cthulhu68 Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 How much RAM do you have? Maybe that would be your best bet for an upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon_ Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 due to CPU not being able to process everything. How do you know? Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 How do you know? By monitoring with AB Intel Core i5-8600k + Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO | Gigabyte GTX 1070 Aorus 8G | 32GB DDR4 Corsair Vengance LPX Black 3200MHz | Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Gaming 3 | WD Black SN750 NVMe 500GB | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB | WD Green 240GB | WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA 3 | WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 3 | EVGA 650 GQ 80+ Gold | Samsung CF391 Curved 32" | Corsair 400C | Steelseries Arctis 5 --- Razer Kraken X Lite | Logitech G305 | Redragon Dyaus 2 K509 | Xbox 360 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Thrustmaster TWCS | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Check this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uSrsnS6QyQ Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Check this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uSrsnS6QyQ Do you OC the cache freq as well? I always wondered how much difference can there be between core and cache. Ive mine with 400 mhz difference. Intel Core i5-8600k + Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO | Gigabyte GTX 1070 Aorus 8G | 32GB DDR4 Corsair Vengance LPX Black 3200MHz | Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Gaming 3 | WD Black SN750 NVMe 500GB | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB | WD Green 240GB | WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA 3 | WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 3 | EVGA 650 GQ 80+ Gold | Samsung CF391 Curved 32" | Corsair 400C | Steelseries Arctis 5 --- Razer Kraken X Lite | Logitech G305 | Redragon Dyaus 2 K509 | Xbox 360 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Thrustmaster TWCS | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 ... since my wife upgrading hers and it allowed... No, no, no... usually should be the wife to get the older computer(for work) and the husband get the new(for play):megalol: Anyway you missed to say what is your budget for the upgrade: to enjoy the sim at 1080p, your PC is not so old but some components need a refresh ;) ACER Predator Orion 9000: W10H | Intel i9-7900X OC@4.5Ghz | 8x16GB Crucial Ballistix Sport | Sapphire GTX1080TI | Intel 900P 480GB | Intel 600P 256GB | HP EX950 1TB | Seagate Firecuda 2TB ACER Predator XB281HK: 28" TN G-SYNC 4K@60hz ThrustMaster Warthog Hotas, TPR, MFD Cougar Pack, HP Reverb Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SierraFox Posted July 1, 2017 Author Share Posted July 1, 2017 How much RAM do you have? Maybe that would be your best bet for an upgrade. 32 gb Saitek X-52 | Track IR 5 w/ TrackClip | DSD "Trackzilla" Button Box Flaming Cliffs 3 | F-5e | Mirage 2000 | A-10c | Harrier AV-8B [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SierraFox Posted July 1, 2017 Author Share Posted July 1, 2017 No, no, no... usually should be the wife to get the older computer(for work) and the husband get the new(for play):megalol: Anyway you missed to say what is your budget for the upgrade: to enjoy the sim at 1080p, your PC is not so old but some components need a refresh ;) Well being in Australia, prices are not consistent. But essentially I was looking at the gtx 1060s as the GPU upgrade and since I'd only be upgrading one thing at the moment the budget would be the same for the CPU (500aud) Saitek X-52 | Track IR 5 w/ TrackClip | DSD "Trackzilla" Button Box Flaming Cliffs 3 | F-5e | Mirage 2000 | A-10c | Harrier AV-8B [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microvax Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 1.5 is cpu limited, but thats because the engine is old and bad and will be thrown into the dumpster fairly soon. 2.1 / then to be 2.5 is GPU limited and not that badly dependant on very fast RAM and CPU. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] *unexpected flight behaviour* Oh shiii*** ! What ? Why ? What is happening ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 1.5 is cpu limited, but thats because the engine is old and bad and will be thrown into the dumpster fairly soon. 2.1 / then to be 2.5 is GPU limited and not that badly dependant on very fast RAM and CPU. DCS 2 is actually performing very poor in terms of optimization. I might be wrong though, but it seems to be the concense. Intel Core i5-8600k + Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO | Gigabyte GTX 1070 Aorus 8G | 32GB DDR4 Corsair Vengance LPX Black 3200MHz | Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Gaming 3 | WD Black SN750 NVMe 500GB | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB | WD Green 240GB | WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA 3 | WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 3 | EVGA 650 GQ 80+ Gold | Samsung CF391 Curved 32" | Corsair 400C | Steelseries Arctis 5 --- Razer Kraken X Lite | Logitech G305 | Redragon Dyaus 2 K509 | Xbox 360 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Thrustmaster TWCS | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 My feeling is that DCS is running in the old M$ sim way. Everything is pushed through the CPU, leaving little workload to GPU for graphic effects. You could install a very decent Graphic card, but it did not help on fps. My own PC is mediocre, but run OK on other sims with higher graphic settings (texture, light, shadow). Seems that GPU takes care of the heavy graphics, leaving the old worn CPU to do the calculating tasks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Well being in Australia, prices are not consistent. But essentially I was looking at the gtx 1060s as the GPU upgrade and since I'd only be upgrading one thing at the moment the budget would be the same for the CPU (500aud) Cpu i7-4790k is about 450 AUD, the same for gtx1060, but a more gpu oriented update maybe i5-4690k (350aud) with a gtx1070 (650aud) ACER Predator Orion 9000: W10H | Intel i9-7900X OC@4.5Ghz | 8x16GB Crucial Ballistix Sport | Sapphire GTX1080TI | Intel 900P 480GB | Intel 600P 256GB | HP EX950 1TB | Seagate Firecuda 2TB ACER Predator XB281HK: 28" TN G-SYNC 4K@60hz ThrustMaster Warthog Hotas, TPR, MFD Cougar Pack, HP Reverb Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SierraFox Posted July 2, 2017 Author Share Posted July 2, 2017 Cpu i7-4790k is about 450 AUD, the same for gtx1060, but a more gpu oriented update maybe i5-4690k (350aud) with a gtx1070 (650aud) yeah thats what i was looking at, no idea why the previous generation of CPUs are so expensive, but still cheaper than having to get a new cpu, motherboard and RAM. I've essentially discovered that i would have to get the CPU form amazon in the US since all the places in australia i normally buy from dont stock anything but the 4460 and a xenon e3 and then just worse CPUs. I'll probably start with just the GPU, see how it performs and hopefully the 4460 will be able to last until 2.5 comes out (i dont have NTTR so i dont really need the power at the moment) since i'm guessing that's going to put a whole lot more pressure on the hardware with all the new lighting and graphical upgrades Saitek X-52 | Track IR 5 w/ TrackClip | DSD "Trackzilla" Button Box Flaming Cliffs 3 | F-5e | Mirage 2000 | A-10c | Harrier AV-8B [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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