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Old 05-21-2020, 11:37 AM   #41
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Great stuff! Can't wait for the 21 to get the last finishing touches in terms of visual fidelity and sounds and absolutely can not wait for the Crusader!
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Old 05-21-2020, 07:10 PM   #42
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Sorry I am a bit daft but the great news was what?
That they have code they do not understand and have no clue how to improve?
The new pit to the Mig-21? 1 year in dev?! Nothing in the "news"?
The sound to the Mig-21?
Sound CEII?

Yeah, I am a mean idiot but I fail to see the "news" here.
It is an "explanation" on why things is not happening with M3 modules, yes!
But "news" on development on the modules, nope.

Please M3, you need help. Nin has a sound mod?!
The community can do more for you, promise.
I'm with you on that one. Promisses are great.
But to me, to put things in perspective, In the timeframe it took heatblur to create the Amazing F14 and enhance on the Vigen; Magnitude managed to come up with... a not so well done christen eagle, and not many improvements to their mig-21...

I really wish them succes; I am very interested in the F4U and F8, but Let's say for now, my enthusiasm is very much restrained by questionable competence to deliver quality products.

I applaud the work that's been done, but to me there's still a long way to go.
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Old 05-22-2020, 01:31 AM   #43
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Dude it’s a new cockpit. We knew we will be getting it for a long time, check their quarterly updates for screenshots. They probably want to talk about how close the F4U is and maybe tease early work on F-8, that’s all. You don’t have to say they can’t code or improve

Things are happening, our stall is back and the big update is on the way, chill

EDIT: of course I’m late http://leatherneck-sim.com/2020/05/20/crouching-update/
Dude.
1 year. And nothing?
But you are a happy camper! Good for you!! (F-14 and Viggen have had how much happening in the dev logs in 1 years time? Dude?)

Dude!
If you have control of the code things is corrected as it happens and the core code is corrected. M3 corrects 1 thing and creates 2 new bugs! (Lights in cockpit in last patch, radar fps, break chute, etc)
And yes it is "old" code but it is no excuse!
If the platform you work from change things,(ED) you of course as a 3d part is on top of things and change it to the new standard. (F-14, Viggen...)
M3 is not doing this.
If you do not see this! I am sorry for you, but there is not much happening here.
Given the time and compared to other 3d party devs, Mig-21 is going downhill.. slowly
The good part it is that just me thinking stuff up, so you can still "dude" me!
Makes me so wrong in the internetz!
Go ahead! I like it!

But! Mig-21 is still back there. Not going somewhere........OBVIOUSLY!!

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Old 05-22-2020, 04:57 AM   #44
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Personally I am glad to still see the Whistling Death and Crusader in the pipe line and actively being worked. The hour glass may be moving at a snails pace, but in the end, the tortoise always beats the hare.

So the 21 has bugs, so your mom did not teach you patience, so you invested money and feel like you have been ripped off, clearly you have not fallen enough in life and pulled yourself back up off the deck. I would much rather have these projects to look forward to than nothing on the horizon at all and sitting here with another empty wish list.

Its all good to voice frustration, but taking cheap shots at the boys trying to make your virtual sim dreams come true is not exactly motivating material. Its not like their is not enough to fly in DCS as is until these are on the virtual flight deck. Mag 3, you still have a silent audience patiently waiting for you to roll these birds out. The virtual Navy boys are waiting.
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Old 05-22-2020, 09:18 AM   #45
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A certain aircraft which has been mentioned on this page has been able to fly comfortably with only one wing, and fire missiles from the detached wing (somehow), for at least six months. I have both been shot down by one in this state, and myself killed two MiGs with magical missiles from a missing wing, on two separate occasions. Comparisons to this or that module don't really do anyone any favours.

As for the brake chute, what's broken with it? I was under the impression people complained that it visually clipped the runway so it was given a collision model to avoid that, but DCS doesn't simulate soft bodies and so the trade off is that it scrapes. That sounds like a problem for the people who demanded it not momentarily clip through the runway surface, to me...
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Old 05-22-2020, 11:46 PM   #46
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A certain aircraft which has been mentioned on this page has been able to fly comfortably with only one wing, and fire missiles from the detached wing (somehow), for at least six months. I have both been shot down by one in this state, and myself killed two MiGs with magical missiles from a missing wing, on two separate occasions. Comparisons to this or that module don't really do anyone any favours.

As for the brake chute, what's broken with it? I was under the impression people complained that it visually clipped the runway so it was given a collision model to avoid that, but DCS doesn't simulate soft bodies and so the trade off is that it scrapes. That sounds like a problem for the people who demanded it not momentarily clip through the runway surface, to me...
Ok, never said that "mentioned" did not have bugs. Then you read it wrong.
I said that those modules have had updates, (updates that is correcting bugs and the modules are moving forward, regardles where the modules is in it development stage)and many of them updates during the last year!
Compare that to the Mig-21 during the last year?
Just look at the patch logs for the last year comparing the modules.
Not rocket science is it?
And ED made big changes to the engine the last year so you need to know your code to keep up and correct stuff. (lightning engine etc...)

If you know your code. You can change it.
If you do not, you can take a educated guess and some things is going the right way, but other stuff is going to break. Like we have now. (PRGM needle backwards a couple of times, why?. Easy stuff right?!)

Regrading the chute, sorry.
Don't even know what you are saying.
The chute do not behave like a chute.
If that is the "people who demanded it to not momentarily clip through the runway surface."
Well M3 is stupid to make is so!
Just for people screaming what, clipping?!
Just do what the other devs do, explain the limitations of the engine and leave it at that!
Motivate your development decision and have a road ahead. A plan!
Leadership! Lead the project. Own it!

Making a collision model for a piece of fabric?!
Just, yeah.... Banana whooopy!!!
A chute do not behave like that. Right?
It gets stupid really fast if a chute is scraping the runway... come on.

I think M3 needs help, and they have no clue what the Mig-21 is doing right now, they do not own the project! Bad leadership or lack of it. I dont know.

At the end of the day we are in the same boat.
We need, want a cool Mig-21!
So I am just comparing what is happening with other modules and what is not happening with the Mig-21 really.....

So all the new cool modules from M3 I am going to be a bit hesitant to invest more money in.
I do not like the silence, the "eluding" responsibility.
ED is a complicated boss to work under but M3 have chosen to do so.
Then you need to own that responsibility, in rain and in shine. You need a plan.

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Old 05-23-2020, 12:51 AM   #47
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Hey ED,

Why not let people write their opinions on the back of a cheque and sign with their names on front before they mail it to you for publishing.

Heaviest criticism should be posted daily to ensure transparency. Start a top 10, then carefully step aside and let Mo and Joe have at it like it was 75.

Thanks for the free month, keep coding and never-mind.
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