-IRRE-Rolluptito Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Hello! I have a question regarding all these coming maps. We're running a server for our team and we're worrying about having to buy all the maps for our server as there is no real dedicated server available. Will there be a solution for that? Or will it be mandatory to buy the maps for the server too? Thank you very much! Rolluptito Owned modules: P-47 | P-51D | Spitfire MkIX | I-16 | Bf 109 K-4 | Fw190 D-9 | Fw190 A-8 | Yak-52 | MiG-15 | F-86F | C-101 | A-10C | AJS-37 | L-39 | F-5E | M-2000C | MiG-21bis | F-14 | AV-8B Harrier II | F/A-18C | F-16C | FC3 | Ka-50 | SA342 | UH-1H | Mi-8MTV2. Maps: Syria, Nevada TTR, Persian Gulf, Normandy 1944, & The Channel. Hardware: GeForce 1080TI, I7 7700K, 32GB RAM. https://www.lesirreductibles.com - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiJack Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Yes, you need to buy the maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boedha68 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Yes, you need to buy the maps. +1 New system:I9-9900KS, Kingston 128 GB DDR4 3200Mhz, MSI RTX 4090, Corsair H150 Pro RGB, 2xSamsung 970 EVO 2Tb, 2xsamsung 970 EVO 1 TB, Scandisk m2 500 MB, 2 x Crucial 1 Tb, T16000M HOTAS, HP Reverb Professional 2, Corsair 750 Watt. Old system:I7-4770K(OC 4.5Ghz), Kingston 24 GB DDR3 1600 Mhz,MSI RTX 2080(OC 2070 Mhz), 2 * 500 GB SSD, 3,5 TB HDD, 55' Samsung 3d tv, Trackir 5, Logitech HD Cam, T16000M HOTAS. All DCS modules, maps and campaigns:pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-IRRE-Rolluptito Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 Thanks for your answer. :) Owned modules: P-47 | P-51D | Spitfire MkIX | I-16 | Bf 109 K-4 | Fw190 D-9 | Fw190 A-8 | Yak-52 | MiG-15 | F-86F | C-101 | A-10C | AJS-37 | L-39 | F-5E | M-2000C | MiG-21bis | F-14 | AV-8B Harrier II | F/A-18C | F-16C | FC3 | Ka-50 | SA342 | UH-1H | Mi-8MTV2. Maps: Syria, Nevada TTR, Persian Gulf, Normandy 1944, & The Channel. Hardware: GeForce 1080TI, I7 7700K, 32GB RAM. https://www.lesirreductibles.com - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Rico Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) tho ED has implemented a new DRM system, they could allow host only servers maps for free ... if they wanted to ...... What say you Wags, do you want to help out us server hosters at all ? After all we ae already paying money renting servers to help promote your sim Edited April 29, 2018 by Johnny_Rico METAR weather for DCS World missions Guide to help out new DCS MOOSE Users -> HERE Havoc Company Dedicated server info Connect IP: 94.23.215.203 SRS enabled - freqs - Main = 243, A2A = 244, A2G = 245 Please contact me HERE if you have any server feedback or METAR issues/requests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-IRRE-Rolluptito Posted April 29, 2018 Author Share Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) That would be great, as a second map on our server will already DOUBLE our annual expenses because of room on hard drives of our server, if we also have to buy the maps for the server side, that seems a damn lot of expenses to run new maps online... I don't know how it's gonna be on servers side with two/three differents maps regarding hard drive space though... It's probably going to be a little mess. Edited April 29, 2018 by -IRRE-Rolluptito Owned modules: P-47 | P-51D | Spitfire MkIX | I-16 | Bf 109 K-4 | Fw190 D-9 | Fw190 A-8 | Yak-52 | MiG-15 | F-86F | C-101 | A-10C | AJS-37 | L-39 | F-5E | M-2000C | MiG-21bis | F-14 | AV-8B Harrier II | F/A-18C | F-16C | FC3 | Ka-50 | SA342 | UH-1H | Mi-8MTV2. Maps: Syria, Nevada TTR, Persian Gulf, Normandy 1944, & The Channel. Hardware: GeForce 1080TI, I7 7700K, 32GB RAM. https://www.lesirreductibles.com - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Rico Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 If you look at the numbers now, you can see how much of a failure DLC maps are in MP total 148 Caucasus 128 - 86.48% Neveda 15 - 10.13% Normandy 5 - 3.79% These poor numbers are due to server hosts having to pay for a map just to host for others to connect to I have a feeling that when the gulf comes out it will be similarly bad We need a dedicated server, but are unlikely to get one anytime soon from ED, so the future of DCS MP does not look bright at all METAR weather for DCS World missions Guide to help out new DCS MOOSE Users -> HERE Havoc Company Dedicated server info Connect IP: 94.23.215.203 SRS enabled - freqs - Main = 243, A2A = 244, A2G = 245 Please contact me HERE if you have any server feedback or METAR issues/requests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Rico Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 I don't really think that says the whole story. I bought Nevada and Normandy when they both came out. When 2.0 was still separate from 1.5, there was a lot of servers just hosting the Nevada and Normandy maps. It's only been since 2.5 and the new Caucasus map release that there are barely any servers hosting Nevada or Normandy. There is a lot more server owners that own Nevada and Normandy than what a casual scroll through the multiplayer list in 2.5 would probably suggest. Why their not hosting those maps at all anymore, aside from the fact that the Caucasus map is new, is a good question though. Were they dedicated servers? (that can handle a lot of players) or were they people just hosting and playing DCS in multiplayer ? METAR weather for DCS World missions Guide to help out new DCS MOOSE Users -> HERE Havoc Company Dedicated server info Connect IP: 94.23.215.203 SRS enabled - freqs - Main = 243, A2A = 244, A2G = 245 Please contact me HERE if you have any server feedback or METAR issues/requests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-IRRE-Rolluptito Posted April 30, 2018 Author Share Posted April 30, 2018 I think it's mainly because Caucasus is new and was waited for years, the other reason can be that you can't have many maps on your server at the same time because they are heavy and to install them all at the same time will require a server that costs 2 to 3 times the cost of a classic one. So people who has server probably did remove Normandy & Nevada to free the space to install Caucasus, no? With the new licence system, can we install/uninstall a map without consuming an activation? An idea to reduce the server cost could be to have installed only the map you need... It is annoying if you want to change often but could work and that can make my team save up to 400€ per year. It's the extra-cost we will have to pay if we want Caucasus AND Persian Gulf installed at the same time on our server... Regardless of the cost of the map itself. Owned modules: P-47 | P-51D | Spitfire MkIX | I-16 | Bf 109 K-4 | Fw190 D-9 | Fw190 A-8 | Yak-52 | MiG-15 | F-86F | C-101 | A-10C | AJS-37 | L-39 | F-5E | M-2000C | MiG-21bis | F-14 | AV-8B Harrier II | F/A-18C | F-16C | FC3 | Ka-50 | SA342 | UH-1H | Mi-8MTV2. Maps: Syria, Nevada TTR, Persian Gulf, Normandy 1944, & The Channel. Hardware: GeForce 1080TI, I7 7700K, 32GB RAM. https://www.lesirreductibles.com - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Rico Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 I think it's mainly because Caucasus is new and was waited for years, the other reason can be that you can't have many maps on your server at the same time because they are heavy and to install them all at the same time will require a server that costs 2 to 3 times the cost of a classic one. So people who has server probably did remove Normandy & Nevada to free the space to install Caucasus, no? With the new licence system, can we install/uninstall a map without consuming an activation? An idea to reduce the server cost could be to have installed only the map you need... It is annoying if you want to change often but could work and that can make my team save up to 400€ per year. It's the extra-cost we will have to pay if we want Caucasus AND Persian Gulf installed at the same time on our server... Regardless of the cost of the map itself. I would say no, a decent spec server storage space will not be an issue From helping out with running a server it is the cost of the map that is the issue METAR weather for DCS World missions Guide to help out new DCS MOOSE Users -> HERE Havoc Company Dedicated server info Connect IP: 94.23.215.203 SRS enabled - freqs - Main = 243, A2A = 244, A2G = 245 Please contact me HERE if you have any server feedback or METAR issues/requests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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