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I'm enjoying this free Dora in DCS but I have a question about the cockpit 3D model. Flying in VR, I noticed it's very difficult (almost impossible) to see certain elements on the lower panel, in particular the dial for adjusting the coolant flaps and the lever next to it.

 

It's no problem in practice, I bound some buttons for it and I can use them. But I want to ask why this side of the cockpit looks so different to the one for example in IL2, where this area can be seen much more clearly. Even all the instruments on the lower panel, water temperatures etc. become half hidden in DCS with a normal/natural head position. Surely it's a 3D model of the same thing, so who got it wrong? :music_whistling:

 

Look at the screenshot from IL2, the head position is very high but still the instruments, dials and levers on the lower panel are perfectly visible, with room to spare. Now look at DCS, very low position for the screenshot (eye level is basically on the seat) but some of these objects are still invisible, hidden up under the upper instrument panel.

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Nice picture!

 

And in DCS this is as low as the head position will let you go.

 

It looks like the coolant flap control is in the right place relative to the engine instruments and the red pull-levers. But it's still completely hidden by the upper panel even though in the picture of the real thing from the same angle it's fully visible.

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Nice picture!

 

And in DCS this is as low as the head position will let you go.

 

It looks like the coolant flap control is in the right place relative to the engine instruments and the red pull-levers. But it's still completely hidden by the upper panel even though in the picture of the real thing from the same angle it's fully visible.

 

Looks like both are off, in the first one it is not possible to see that handle from that height, and second one looks like handle is too deep :P i think on photo camera height is below dcs minimum height

DCS Dora is quite old one.

Anyway by looks of this cockpit photo there is now way that pilot could see that :) It is almost like keeping your head between legs :P


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Yup, they're both wrong. Oh well, I can accept the Dora model is old this is not super crucial, nice to have some understanding.

 

I guess these are simple controls that you are not supposed to see all the time, just know what they do and use by feel.


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I am not an expert of the manufacturing history of the ww2 fighters but I guess its also worth to consider that maybe not every cockpit had been the exact same I mean proportion wise with instrument placing with milimeter accuracies although they had the same model numbers.

 

I am saying this considering that the speed of the construction time was a big factor back than obviously and most of these planes were "slapped" together during wartime probably within a couple of weeks. Beside it might be also possible that many spare parts from previous models had been reused so I guess it can be that not every Dora came out from the production line as a brand new product with milimeter accuracy standards like the cars/planes today especially the late models like the Dora because by then it was not about showing superiority but to survive I guess.

 

So It might be that not every FW-190D9 had been the exact copies of each other with the exact same instrument placing and exact same cockpit "aesthetics".

 

Beside who knows how many reconstruction of these historical planes exist today went through or the one ED based on their 3D model of the cockpit.

 

 

With modern aircrafts I would be more critical because they have been manufactured in "peace" time with different standards with modern manufacturing technologies and timeframes but in this case I would say we have to trust ED that they are passionate enough about their product to make these models as authentical and accurate as possible and the differences probably due to that a lot of of these aircrafts had been or now are "unique". :D


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That could certainly be the case, after all by 1945 109K-4s were flying sometimes without radios or missing instruments. I can see for example in the IL2 cockpit the plaque with "kuhlerklappen - auf - zu" is above on the upper panel, which I accepted as a manufacturing variation.

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